Yeah gruff, I can see it now, we're both there, two old decrepit
individuals drooling in our chairs and finally having that ribeye and
wine dinner that we can't chew or have the stomach to digest while
saying "well the capitalists have done a great job".  Bullshit!

In all reality capitalism has more to gain with our early demise than
with our extended senior years. The only reason they want to keep old
people alive today is so they can keep making money through the
medical and pharmaceutical industry; basically one and the same. This
is why assisted suicide is illegal and for no other reason.  It's
capitalism either way!!
The pharmaceutical industry makes money on disease and illness not
cures.  Don't you see how it is so not advantageous to find cures for
disease?  Do you know what the ramifications of finding cures for
diseases are?
It's easy gruff............

It's called "Way Too Big To Fail"

Get off the clouds !!



On Sep 12, 10:50 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> "... On Sep 12, 7:35 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."
>
> > Gruff, you are a capitalist at heart ...
>
> Yes, and unabashedly so.  I've never denied that sobriquet.  I also
> admit to being a fiscal conservative and a social progressive -- more
> or less.  There are no particular categories I fit into 100%
>
> > I simply ask that you take
> > a moment to realize the we don't need a financial system, a monetary
> > denomination, a value to every little piece of minutia on planet earth
> > for the sake of trade.  We don't need any of it because we have enough
> > natural resources, enough land and the knowledge that greed is our
> > downfall.
>
> I have done as you asked and have to say, what you describe sounds
> suspiciously like some utopian communism.  It would never work.  Not
> unless you were able to remove ego, competition and the desire for
> more than the Joneses from all human beings.  We have to realize what
> we are, accept it and work with it, and what we are are political
> competitive and amazingly brilliant animals.  We could no more settle
> in to a life of everyone having the same and being the same and not
> wanting more, than we could fly to the moon on gossamer wings.
>
> > The reason is that wealthy fat pig investors,(the ones
> > you support) have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the farm
> > except for the profit it will generate so they can reap the rewards
> > from the laborious tasks of the farmers.  This is the reality.
>
> You can characterize them as fat pigs but the reality is that they are
> wealthy investors who risked the capital (making them capitalists) to
> start a farm which will employ a number of people, support their
> families and generate additional wealth some of which will be
> profits.
>
> You seem to believe the world built by capitalists and the free market
> system is going to hell in a handbasket and is not going to be around
> much longer because the proles will rise up and destroy them.
>
> All I can say to that is wait and see, wait and see.  The future I
> describe is not that far away.  Likely we'll both get there.

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