"... On Sep 12, 9:52 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: ..."

> Yeah gruff, I can see it now, we're both there, two old decrepit
> individuals drooling in our chairs and finally having that ribeye and
> wine dinner that we can't chew or have the stomach to digest while
> saying "well the capitalists have done a great job".  Bullshit!

Were it not for capitalism and the free market we'd never be able to
sit down and enjoy a ribeye and wine.  We'd be busting our asses from
before dawn till late at night planting potatoes and hoping the
neighbors or animals wouldn't steal them.

> In all reality capitalism has more to gain with our early demise than
> with our extended senior years. The only reason they want to keep old
> people alive today is so they can keep making money through the
> medical and pharmaceutical industry; basically one and the same. This
> is why assisted suicide is illegal and for no other reason.  It's
> capitalism either way!!

So you're a "deather" too?  Or does the healthcare industry trump the
ovens?  But you're right about one thing.... any way you go,
capitalism rules.  The ills you condemn capitalism for are not the
system's fault.  Its the fault of the people who use and abuse the
system.  Capitalism has made the world wealthy and raised many up ...
though there are still improvements and more raisings to get done.

> The pharmaceutical industry makes money on disease and illness not
> cures.  Don't you see how it is so not advantageous to find cures for
> disease?  Do you know what the ramifications of finding cures for
> diseases are?

I have to ask, who is the pharmaceutical industry?  Is it the drugs
that are bad?  Or is it the people who own, run and administer the
drugs bad?  So it's not really BigPharma that's bad.  It's the
people.

> It's easy gruff............
> It's called "Way Too Big To Fail"

I do admit, I've some concerns about how big some corporations get.
But they are readily allayed when I begin to look at the corp with a
magnifying glass.  Big corporations are just like big government: far
too many mousy bureaucrats, far too many middle managers, and far too
much lucre being skimmed at the top.

But again.  It's not the corporations or their size.  It's the people
that are the clerks, guards, bean counters, salesmen, middle managers,
upper managers, advertising hacks, board members, XOs and CEOs.   In
the nude at night they all pretty much look the same and are the
same.  And they're all subject to squeezing the system.  Snip a little
free time here, take a pencil there, buy lunch for your mistress on
the corp credit card and mark it down to a business meeting, get
kickbacks from your customers on company sales, arrange sweetheart
contracts with suppliers that put money in an unmarked account for
you, take bribes for swaying some votes at the board meeting, force
the corporation to cut you some nice going away presents (aka golden
parachutes) if they want your hotshot talents on board.

The corruption goes up and down the ladder.

> Get off the clouds !!

Last time I looked both feet were on the ground.

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