So what is your point?   I will say this.  When this happens that
christain's do this they and there children go through alot.  It is not so
when they ask forgiveness and everything is ukie dory the forgiveness is
given and they swallow their pride and clean up the mess hopefully.  And I
will say it is not a good example for other's.  Lust and unhappiness.  That
ole saying it is not greener on the other side.  Some christains marry into
abuse,some do it out of lust and some or blind and think they know about God
and some find about just what it means that you are only human and step away
from God's .  Because you are a christain does not mean
you will not fall, but when you fall get back up and by grace of God.  Just
as if you was not a Christain,such as some other belief you find you get a
little dirt on you as you go.

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:59 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> When I am talking about vice it is about religious people and what they
> consider to be vice , e.g. A christian would indulge in extra-marital sex
> and then ask God's forgiveness for it. What I mean is that religious people
> are breaking the rules of their own religion all the time and later asking
> their God by means of prayer or otherwise to forgive them.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It all sounds exactly like what I'm saying except for the part about
>> asking a god's forgiveness.
>> Who are you and who is society to judge what is vice?  How can anyone
>> know what their god deems to be vice except by the "books" written by
>> "people" in ancient times?  Don't you see how ridiculous that is?
>>
>> On Sep 13, 11:30 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > A person can have a humanitarian mindset regardless of religion. You
>> don't
>> > have to believe in God to be good , you can have a feeling of
>> responsibility
>> > towards society and  consider it your duty towards it and do what is
>> good
>> > for you and the others. Patriots need not be religious , yet they feel a
>> > great responsibility towards their country. There are so many motives
>> for a
>> > man  to do good to others irrespective of religion. On the other hand
>> people
>> > are known to indulge in vice and ask God's forgiveness later.
>> >
>>  > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > Sure, "helping is primal". But the Jihadist, having a different
>> > > theology than the Christian, believes he is helping you by converting
>> > > you to Islam by the sword. Not so the Christian, for whom religion is
>> > > the "The voluntary subjection of oneself to God".
>> >
>> > > The island of atheists? Sure, they'd "help others" for some definition
>> > > of "help" and "others". I know something about the Christian command
>> > > to love my neighbor but don't know the official atheist dogma on
>> > > helping others.  If one acted like there were no God why would he
>> > > think he has any duty to help others?
>> >
>> > > On Sep 12, 8:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > AW;
>> > > > Yes there is.............
>> > > > I'll refer you to rigsy's  sept. 6 10:15 am post as to my "theistic
>> > > > religiosity" comment.
>> >
>> > > > Also, people use therapy and AA like a religion- in fact, they "use"
>> a
>> > > > lot of things in lieu of religion. What about jingoism? <<<rigsy
>> >
>> > > > Do you think no one would help anyone else on an island of atheists
>> > > > because they didn't have a religion to tell them to do so?   Helping
>> > > > is primal and innate as nurturing; religion and faith is human
>> > > > construct and not necessity.
>>
>
>

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