I think your praise is warranted as well as your criticism. I probably have a better "fit" with Al-Anon or Adult Children of Alcoholics and the daily meditations I read are based on those groups. I think I am doing well on my own but am not perfect yet. :-)
On Sep 14, 9:14 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > For many recovering alcoholics, rigsy, AA is like a lifejacket after a > shipwreck - especially in the initial stages. Anything that helps you > stay dry is worth it. If this includes a certain monomania and > dogmatism about the 12 steps, so be it, it's still a hell of a lot > better than the alternative. > > My experience - including my own personal history - is that most dry > alcoholics/clean addicts lighten up with time. The need for self-help > groups and the urge to tell one's story and hear the stories of others > over and over again usually diminishes. But self-help has proved > itself as being very useful for most trying to claw their way out of > the hell of addiction. > > Personally, the subtle Christian/theistic flavour of AA has always > irritated me and during my initial recovery period I was lucky enough > to find a specifically non-religious self-help group in the town in > which I lived. But if AA had been the only game in town, I'd have gone > there and been glad to have them. For anyone starting into recovery, > whatever can help you stay dry is positive; even if that entails > painting yourself blue and singing falsetto outside Starbucks! > > Francis > > On 6 Sep., 17:15, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Also, people use therapy and AA like a religion- in fact, they "use" a > > lot of things in lieu of religion. What about jingoism? > > > On Sep 5, 12:51 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/muslim-relief-organizations-discrim... > > > > Questions: > > > > What is inhibiting the growth of civilization? > > > > What is the problem with people helping people in a disaster? > > > > What is the main wedge driving people apart in the world today? > > > > What is an obstacle in lending a hand to another human being? > > > > What is the basis of a holy war that is killing people? > > > > Why are people being denied humanitarian aid? > > > > Why is it that.........(fill in the blank)..........? > > > > Answer: > > > > Religion, here there and everywhere. > > > > "I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for > > > President."...... > > > > Quote from GW Bush before he caused the slaughter of innocent people > > > in Iraq. > > > >http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/06/iraq > > > Excerpt: > > > A major reason there are hundreds of thousands of dead innocent > > > civilians in Iraq, and thousands more in Afghanistan, is because this > > > is what we do. > > > > This is what we do in the name of god? > > > > In god we trust? > > > > Let's Pray..... "god help us".- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
