I have a few Gary Larsen collections that I keep in the front restroom reading basket. I'll have to copy the Robin Williams foreword in one of them; definitely appropriate. Perhaps we've lost sight of the fact that we are still animals in a great many ways. Some are more evolved than others and some less, I remember an old thread I started concerning that issue; comparatives with Einstein types and Mike Tyson personalities. It was argued that Tyson might have turned out different had he not been victim of his early social environs. I had a hard time with that one, you know, Dr. Mike Tyson PhD. It's a stretch but he would have had to have the acumen necessary to carry out that accomplishment regardless of a privileged life. There are many who are nurtured in wealth that don't succeed or have difficulty excelling past the average levels. We might look at Paris Hilton for one example, she's not entirely numb but I don't imagine she would reach the academic pinnacle. There are numerous other examples but research is necessary. Evolution is not the only factor in human development; selective breeding is essential in producing offspring that can excel. It is rare and somewhat of a phenomenon or anomaly that the ghettos will produce extraordinary offspring. I don't want to link that with eugenics because of the connotative aspect of racism. I'm mainly focusing on the intellectual aspect. There are people who seek out mates on the basis of their reproductive potential for child prodigies etc. The domination issue on the surface may seem complex but at core value not much has changed. Passivity roles have in some ways changed due to social pressures but consider a post global catastrophic situation in which all forms of communication are nil, chaos ensues; what gender do you see at that point dominating? You can train a lion in a cage to allow others to eat first but once the containment is obliterated the pride will assume it's innate tendencies. Elevation in academia, politics and boardrooms do not alter the species, it's merely role play and role reversal. Secondly those qualities, business, politics etc, are not gender specific; that is why there are transitions taking place in those fields. Conversely males will never give birth and females will never produce sperm. We'll have to cover this some more.
On Sep 21, 7:55 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > I like the way you methodically deal with a topic. That's not my > style...in case you haven't noticed! > > A couple thoughts: > > Passing on a dynasty or a family farm or business is one way the > patriarchs/matriarchs sought a kind of immortality. Also, traditions- > from professions to family celebrations, foods, etc. > > Our laws and justice system might be regarded as our secular religion > imposing ethics and morals upon the population- with rewards and > punishments. The Pilgrims hoped to create a theocracy in America. Our > religious freedom owes a debt to Roger Williams and some other > courageous souls of that time but I doubt they envisioned the power of > capitalism and our eventual role in the world. > > Well, sometime I should relate a Hobbes adventure or two and yes, I > guess you are right about our relatedness to the animal kingdom. I > know I miss Gary Larson- "The Far Side". > > Am finishing up a long list of household "to-do's". This week, I hope > the welder will work me into his schedule. He worked for me in the > past and that seems to be a lucky gift of getting along with those I > have hired- except for that carpenter this summer. Oh well, I > prevailed in the end. > > Oh- and about domination. How easily are you manipulated? That seems > to be where the female sex sought its balance and power but that may > change as they leap ahead of the males in degrees, politics and > boardrooms and stay/get even in sexual freedoms. We'll see... > > On Sep 21, 5:31 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There certainly is a lot to think about in your reply, Slip- thank > > you. rigs > > > Well give it all a good think, I'd like to hear more from you. > > > On Sep 20, 10:19 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > There certainly is a lot to think about in your reply, Slip- thank > > > you. > > > > Oh, but life also has a lot of happiness, joy and silliness as well. > > > > I mentioned boarding school days in a recent post for my own benefit, > > > perhaps. The regimen lasted from kindergarten through 4th grade and it > > > was a gift- probably insisted/bribed/traded by my father after my > > > parents were divorced- in fact, my mother and father appeared as a > > > married couple to fool the nuns when I went to the Sacred Heart > > > convent- otherwise they would not have accepted me as one nun told me > > > much later. They nuns found out in my father's obituary that mother > > > was wife #2. :-) And the nuns at the hospital also called my mother > > > first. Anyway, those orderly years were a great foundation and escape > > > from turmoil and it dawned on me much later when raising my children- > > > pretty much on my own. I turned into a wild charming girl growing up > > > with plenty of dates and parties but my home life was pretty chaotic. > > > I got tired of the women's college after two years and wanted to go to > > > the university and my mother refused and instead let me marry so I > > > escaped again. Hooray!!! lol I think my second marriage was also an > > > escape! I must be a slow learner! > > > > But I do need to pray. When something unusally nice happens I > > > immediately say, "Thank you, God" out of habit. But when things are > > > not going so well...well, I must admit I can be belligerant in my > > > thoughts about God- and some of it out loud. But I think it is really > > > a loving argument. I know this must sound irrational and egotistical- > > > to think that God is just sitting around waiting or something. Anyway, > > > I have learned to be grateful and even hard times taught me a lot- if > > > I didn't regard them as penance. So I hope this doesn't sound > > > hilarious or weird to you. Guess part of me will always believe my > > > childhood faith. > > > > On Sep 20, 6:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Continued................... > > > > > Perhaps God/gods are myth and fantasy- I really don't know- except > > > > that prayer is a gift in good times and bad for I do think there are > > > > too many incidents and challenges in life where reason cannot provide > > > > an answer or solution and humans simply have to "give it up/over" to a > > > > force/wish beyond themselves. rig > > > > > Perhaps they are, no one really knows for sure. Still I'm looking at > > > > the lack of immediate or direct action or influence by a god. People > > > > exhibit extraordinary effort in times of struggle and need; it doesn't > > > > have to be on account of a belief in anything. The giving it up to a > > > > higher power thing merely expresses one's exasperation in dealing with > > > > a situation, the acceptance that one does not have any say in or any > > > > control over a situation. It is like letting whatever is going to > > > > happen happen. Let's say your dog runs out the front door and takes > > > > off, you go in and pray that he'll return and then 2 days later he > > > > shows up at the door. Was it the prayer or did the dog just find his > > > > way home? Again the prayer served as a means of pacification but we > > > > have no way of knowing if there was some higher power that guided the > > > > dog home or if a higher power wanted you to be happy instead of sad. > > > > > The strange thing is that life is full of sadness, misery, suffering, > > > > anguish and uncertainty but for some reason we want to endure through > > > > it all and through what we perceive to be a very short time, as they > > > > say "life is very short" and late in life we all wonder "where did it > > > > all go".- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > >
