" Someone who could shoot straight and knew mushrooms and berries and didn't talk too much."
* Like * When is the meltdown expected ? On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:07 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > Part of ambition is to be hungry for success and if parents were like > that it doesn't always transfer to the children- there's that saying > about tuxedo to shirtsleeves re generations. Plus, if the house was > fancy, literate, etc. it's "been there, done that". But I did notice > how spare some homes were when my children were in school re books and > music. However, I do think a library card is the best one anyone can > carry and this country is lucky to have a great library system. > > Well, Mike is such a gorilla- a lot of guys in heavy contact sports > are like that. And the world needs a certain amount of gorillas- who > would bodyguard, etc? As for Albert- there's a notion his first wife > helped him a lot with his theories but never got credit. Same with the > woman who worked on DNA. Then, there's Sophie Tolstoy!!! > > My sons wouldn't dare bring home a Paris Hilton type to meet mom- they > knew better. :-) Maybe they dated those types on the sly. lol My > daughter dragged all her beaus home...not all at once- one by one... > > There is selective breeding- frozen sperm and a turkey baster. Lots of > ads out east for coed's eggs, as well. > > Well, the sexes go back and forth and this era is the extreme reverse > of the Victorian era- maybe. In case of a meltdown, I would want a > Special Forces guy or a Navy Seal or someone who passed high endurance > tests- my youngest son did a winter survival course in Patagonia and > passed...my BABY!!! :-) Someone who could shoot straight and knew > mushrooms and berries and didn't talk too much. :-) > > On Sep 21, 8:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have a few Gary Larsen collections that I keep in the front restroom > > reading basket. I'll have to copy the Robin Williams foreword in one > > of them; definitely appropriate. > > Perhaps we've lost sight of the fact that we are still animals in a > > great many ways. Some are more evolved than others and some less, I > > remember an old thread I started concerning that issue; comparatives > > with Einstein types and Mike Tyson personalities. It was argued that > > Tyson might have turned out different had he not been victim of his > > early social environs. I had a hard time with that one, you know, Dr. > > Mike Tyson PhD. It's a stretch but he would have had to have the > > acumen necessary to carry out that accomplishment regardless of a > > privileged life. There are many who are nurtured in wealth that don't > > succeed or have difficulty excelling past the average levels. We > > might look at Paris Hilton for one example, she's not entirely numb > > but I don't imagine she would reach the academic pinnacle. There are > > numerous other examples but research is necessary. > > Evolution is not the only factor in human development; selective > > breeding is essential in producing offspring that can excel. It is > > rare and somewhat of a phenomenon or anomaly that the ghettos will > > produce extraordinary offspring. I don't want to link that with > > eugenics because of the connotative aspect of racism. I'm mainly > > focusing on the intellectual aspect. There are people who seek out > > mates on the basis of their reproductive potential for child prodigies > > etc. > > The domination issue on the surface may seem complex but at core value > > not much has changed. Passivity roles have in some ways changed due to > > social pressures but consider a post global catastrophic situation in > > which all forms of communication are nil, chaos ensues; what gender do > > you see at that point dominating? You can train a lion in a cage to > > allow others to eat first but once the containment is obliterated the > > pride will assume it's innate tendencies. Elevation in academia, > > politics and boardrooms do not alter the species, it's merely role > > play and role reversal. Secondly those qualities, business, politics > > etc, are not gender specific; that is why there are transitions taking > > place in those fields. Conversely males will never give birth and > > females will never produce sperm. We'll have to cover this some more. > > > > On Sep 21, 7:55 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I like the way you methodically deal with a topic. That's not my > > > style...in case you haven't noticed! > > > > > A couple thoughts: > > > > > Passing on a dynasty or a family farm or business is one way the > > > patriarchs/matriarchs sought a kind of immortality. Also, traditions- > > > from professions to family celebrations, foods, etc. > > > > > Our laws and justice system might be regarded as our secular religion > > > imposing ethics and morals upon the population- with rewards and > > > punishments. The Pilgrims hoped to create a theocracy in America. Our > > > religious freedom owes a debt to Roger Williams and some other > > > courageous souls of that time but I doubt they envisioned the power of > > > capitalism and our eventual role in the world. > > > > > Well, sometime I should relate a Hobbes adventure or two and yes, I > > > guess you are right about our relatedness to the animal kingdom. I > > > know I miss Gary Larson- "The Far Side". > > > > > Am finishing up a long list of household "to-do's". This week, I hope > > > the welder will work me into his schedule. He worked for me in the > > > past and that seems to be a lucky gift of getting along with those I > > > have hired- except for that carpenter this summer. Oh well, I > > > prevailed in the end. > > > > > Oh- and about domination. How easily are you manipulated? That seems > > > to be where the female sex sought its balance and power but that may > > > change as they leap ahead of the males in degrees, politics and > > > boardrooms and stay/get even in sexual freedoms. We'll see... > > > > > On Sep 21, 5:31 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > There certainly is a lot to think about in your reply, Slip- thank > > > > you. rigs > > > > > > Well give it all a good think, I'd like to hear more from you. > > > > > > On Sep 20, 10:19 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > There certainly is a lot to think about in your reply, Slip- thank > > > > > you. > > > > > > > Oh, but life also has a lot of happiness, joy and silliness as > well. > > > > > > > I mentioned boarding school days in a recent post for my own > benefit, > > > > > perhaps. The regimen lasted from kindergarten through 4th grade and > it > > > > > was a gift- probably insisted/bribed/traded by my father after my > > > > > parents were divorced- in fact, my mother and father appeared as a > > > > > married couple to fool the nuns when I went to the Sacred Heart > > > > > convent- otherwise they would not have accepted me as one nun told > me > > > > > much later. They nuns found out in my father's obituary that mother > > > > > was wife #2. :-) And the nuns at the hospital also called my mother > > > > > first. Anyway, those orderly years were a great foundation and > escape > > > > > from turmoil and it dawned on me much later when raising my > children- > > > > > pretty much on my own. I turned into a wild charming girl growing > up > > > > > with plenty of dates and parties but my home life was pretty > chaotic. > > > > > I got tired of the women's college after two years and wanted to go > to > > > > > the university and my mother refused and instead let me marry so I > > > > > escaped again. Hooray!!! lol I think my second marriage was also an > > > > > escape! I must be a slow learner! > > > > > > > But I do need to pray. When something unusally nice happens I > > > > > immediately say, "Thank you, God" out of habit. But when things are > > > > > not going so well...well, I must admit I can be belligerant in my > > > > > thoughts about God- and some of it out loud. But I think it is > really > > > > > a loving argument. I know this must sound irrational and > egotistical- > > > > > to think that God is just sitting around waiting or something. > Anyway, > > > > > I have learned to be grateful and even hard times taught me a lot- > if > > > > > I didn't regard them as penance. So I hope this doesn't sound > > > > > hilarious or weird to you. Guess part of me will always believe my > > > > > childhood faith. > > > > > > > On Sep 20, 6:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Continued................... > > > > > > > > Perhaps God/gods are myth and fantasy- I really don't know- > except > > > > > > that prayer is a gift in good times and bad for I do think there > are > > > > > > too many incidents and challenges in life where reason cannot > provide > > > > > > an answer or solution and humans simply have to "give it up/over" > to a > > > > > > force/wish beyond themselves. rig > > > > > > > > Perhaps they are, no one really knows for sure. Still I'm > looking at > > > > > > the lack of immediate or direct action or influence by a god. > People > > > > > > exhibit extraordinary effort in times of struggle and need; it > doesn't > > > > > > have to be on account of a belief in anything. The giving it up > to a > > > > > > higher power thing merely expresses one's exasperation in dealing > with > > > > > > a situation, the acceptance that one does not have any say in or > any > > > > > > control over a situation. It is like letting whatever is going to > > > > > > happen happen. Let's say your dog runs out the front door and > takes > > > > > > off, you go in and pray that he'll return and then 2 days later > he > > > > > > shows up at the door. Was it the prayer or did the dog just find > his > > > > > > way home? Again the prayer served as a means of pacification but > we > > > > > > have no way of knowing if there was some higher power that guided > the > > > > > > dog home or if a higher power wanted you to be happy instead of > sad. > > > > > > > > The strange thing is that life is full of sadness, misery, > suffering, > > > > > > anguish and uncertainty but for some reason we want to endure > through > > > > > > it all and through what we perceive to be a very short time, as > they > > > > > > say "life is very short" and late in life we all wonder "where > did it > > > > > > all go".- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- ASHOK TEWARI
