Part of ambition is to be hungry for success and if parents were like
that it doesn't always transfer to the children- there's that saying
about tuxedo to shirtsleeves re generations. Plus, if the house was
fancy, literate, etc. it's "been there, done that". But I did notice
how spare some homes were when my children were in school re books and
music. However, I do think a library card is the best one anyone can
carry and this country is lucky to have a great library system.

Well, Mike is such a gorilla- a lot of guys in heavy contact sports
are like that. And the world needs a certain amount of gorillas- who
would bodyguard, etc? As for Albert- there's a notion his first wife
helped him a lot with his theories but never got credit. Same with the
woman who worked on DNA. Then, there's Sophie Tolstoy!!!

My sons wouldn't dare bring home a Paris Hilton type to meet mom- they
knew better. :-) Maybe they dated those types on the sly. lol My
daughter dragged all her beaus home...not all at once- one by one...

There is selective breeding- frozen sperm and a turkey baster. Lots of
ads out east for coed's eggs, as well.

Well, the sexes go back and forth and this era is the extreme reverse
of the Victorian era- maybe. In case of a meltdown, I would want a
Special Forces guy or a Navy Seal or someone who passed high endurance
tests- my youngest son did a winter survival course in Patagonia and
passed...my BABY!!! :-) Someone who could shoot straight and knew
mushrooms and berries and didn't talk too much. :-)

On Sep 21, 8:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have a few Gary Larsen collections that I keep in the front restroom
> reading basket. I'll have to copy the Robin Williams foreword in one
> of them; definitely appropriate.
> Perhaps we've lost sight of the fact that we are still animals in a
> great many ways.  Some are more evolved than others and some less, I
> remember an old thread I started concerning that issue; comparatives
> with Einstein types and Mike Tyson personalities.  It was argued that
> Tyson might have turned out different had he not been victim of his
> early social environs. I had a hard time with that one, you know, Dr.
> Mike Tyson PhD.  It's a stretch but he would have had to have the
> acumen necessary to carry out that accomplishment regardless of a
> privileged life.  There are many who are nurtured in wealth that don't
> succeed or have difficulty excelling past the average levels.  We
> might look at Paris Hilton for one example, she's not entirely numb
> but I don't imagine she would reach the academic pinnacle. There are
> numerous other examples but research is necessary.
> Evolution is not the only factor in human development; selective
> breeding is essential in producing offspring that can excel. It is
> rare and somewhat of a phenomenon or anomaly that the ghettos will
> produce extraordinary offspring. I don't want to link that with
> eugenics because of the connotative aspect of racism. I'm mainly
> focusing on the intellectual aspect.  There are people who seek out
> mates on the basis of their reproductive potential for child prodigies
> etc.
> The domination issue on the surface may seem complex but at core value
> not much has changed. Passivity roles have in some ways changed due to
> social pressures but consider a post global catastrophic situation in
> which all forms of communication are nil, chaos ensues; what gender do
> you see at that point dominating?  You can train a lion in a cage to
> allow others to eat first but once the containment is obliterated the
> pride will assume it's innate tendencies. Elevation in academia,
> politics and boardrooms do not alter the species, it's merely role
> play and role reversal. Secondly those qualities, business, politics
> etc, are not gender specific; that is why there are transitions taking
> place in those fields.  Conversely males will never give birth and
> females will never produce sperm. We'll have to cover this some more.
>
> On Sep 21, 7:55 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I like the way you methodically deal with a topic. That's not my
> > style...in case you haven't noticed!
>
> > A couple thoughts:
>
> > Passing on a dynasty or a family farm or business is one way the
> > patriarchs/matriarchs sought a kind of immortality. Also, traditions-
> > from professions to family celebrations, foods, etc.
>
> > Our laws and justice system might be regarded as our secular religion
> > imposing ethics and morals upon the population- with rewards and
> > punishments. The Pilgrims hoped to create a theocracy in America. Our
> > religious freedom owes a debt to Roger Williams and some other
> > courageous souls of that time but I doubt they envisioned the power of
> > capitalism and our eventual role in the world.
>
> > Well, sometime I should relate a Hobbes adventure or two and yes, I
> > guess you are right about our relatedness to the animal kingdom. I
> > know I miss Gary Larson- "The Far Side".
>
> > Am finishing up a long list of household "to-do's". This week, I hope
> > the welder will work me into his schedule. He worked for me in the
> > past and that seems to be a lucky gift of getting along with those I
> > have hired- except for that carpenter this summer. Oh well, I
> > prevailed in the end.
>
> > Oh- and about domination. How easily are you manipulated? That seems
> > to be where the female sex sought its balance and power but that may
> > change as they leap ahead of the males in degrees, politics and
> > boardrooms and stay/get even in sexual freedoms. We'll see...
>
> > On Sep 21, 5:31 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > There certainly is a lot to think about in your reply, Slip- thank
> > > you.  rigs
>
> > > Well give it all a good think, I'd like to hear more from you.
>
> > > On Sep 20, 10:19 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > There certainly is a lot to think about in your reply, Slip- thank
> > > > you.
>
> > > > Oh, but life also has a lot of happiness, joy and silliness as well.
>
> > > > I mentioned boarding school days in a recent post for my own benefit,
> > > > perhaps. The regimen lasted from kindergarten through 4th grade and it
> > > > was a gift- probably insisted/bribed/traded by my father after my
> > > > parents were divorced- in fact, my mother and father appeared as a
> > > > married couple to fool the nuns when I went to the Sacred Heart
> > > > convent- otherwise they would not have accepted me as one nun told me
> > > > much later. They nuns found out in my father's obituary that mother
> > > > was wife #2. :-) And the nuns at the hospital also called my mother
> > > > first. Anyway, those orderly years were a great foundation and escape
> > > > from turmoil and it dawned on me much later when raising my children-
> > > > pretty much on my own. I turned into a wild charming girl growing up
> > > > with plenty of dates and parties but my home life was pretty chaotic.
> > > > I got tired of the women's college after two years and wanted to go to
> > > > the university and my mother refused and instead let me marry so I
> > > > escaped again. Hooray!!! lol I think my second marriage was also an
> > > > escape! I must be a slow learner!
>
> > > > But I do need to pray. When something unusally nice happens I
> > > > immediately say, "Thank you, God" out of habit. But when things are
> > > > not going so well...well, I must admit I can be belligerant in my
> > > > thoughts about God- and some of it out loud. But I think it is really
> > > > a loving argument. I know this must sound irrational and egotistical-
> > > > to think that God is just sitting around waiting or something. Anyway,
> > > > I have learned to be grateful and even hard times taught me a lot- if
> > > > I didn't regard them as penance. So I hope this doesn't sound
> > > > hilarious or weird to you. Guess part of me will always believe my
> > > > childhood faith.
>
> > > > On Sep 20, 6:42 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Continued...................
>
> > > > > Perhaps God/gods are myth and fantasy- I really don't know- except
> > > > > that prayer is a gift in good times and bad for I do think there are
> > > > > too many incidents and challenges in life where reason cannot provide
> > > > > an answer or solution and humans simply have to "give it up/over" to a
> > > > > force/wish beyond themselves. rig
>
> > > > > Perhaps they are, no one really knows for sure.  Still I'm looking at
> > > > > the lack of immediate or direct action or influence by a god.  People
> > > > > exhibit extraordinary effort in times of struggle and need; it doesn't
> > > > > have to be on account of a belief in anything.   The giving it up to a
> > > > > higher power thing merely expresses one's exasperation in dealing with
> > > > > a situation, the acceptance that one does not have any say in or any
> > > > > control over a situation. It is like letting whatever is going to
> > > > > happen happen.  Let's say your dog runs out the front door and takes
> > > > > off, you go in and pray that he'll return and then 2 days later he
> > > > > shows up at the door.  Was it the prayer or did the dog just find his
> > > > > way home?  Again the prayer served as a means of pacification but we
> > > > > have no way of knowing if there was some higher power that guided the
> > > > > dog home or if a higher power wanted you to be happy instead of sad.
>
> > > > > The strange thing is that life is full of sadness, misery, suffering,
> > > > > anguish and uncertainty but for some reason we want to endure through
> > > > > it all and through what we perceive to be a very short time, as they
> > > > > say "life is very short" and late in life we all wonder "where did it
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