RP it really does not matter the situations that occur to you all that is of importance is how you respond to them. as far as God's will goes it is quite simple really "Be good , do no harm" it is written is several different ways, but most of what people refer to God's will I think can be attributed to ones own concepts .. Allan
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > A man's innate nature is corrupted by others and that is not in one's > hands. Nature from inside and outside a person determines all actions, so > whatever happens it is ultimately God's will and there is nothing > presumptuous in accepting and recognizing that. > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 6:23 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> For some it is the struggle to survive rather than strive.//You might >> want to acqaint yourself with Thomas Hardy- an early influence- esp. >> his "Tess of the D'Ubervilles" and "Jude the Obscure".//American >> Democracy lures immigrants with freedom but materialism suffocates >> them with greed and envy despite their often good nature and >> generosity.//I do think it presumptuous to decide God's plan for our >> lives- there are too many surprises along the way. Plus our innate >> nature can be corrupted in several ways. Adam and Eve wound up >> dysfunctional- look at Cain and Abel! >> >> Have wounded a thumb slicing a potato on the mandolin (a kitchen >> tool). Difficult to type and surf. :-( >> >> On Nov 19, 4:29 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The " I " is self-sense which is just a reflection of the Self or God. >> Our >> > will is totally bound by nature , when we strive and struggle it is >> because >> > of our innate nature which was given to us. The effect is always a >> result of >> > the cause and not vice versa. >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:43 AM, [email protected] < >> > >> > >> > >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > RP Singh. >> > >> > > So it is not you then? What is you? When people say that we can >> > > achive via the application of our will what does this mean? >> > >> > > There is I think in all of us a sense of 'Self''. What then is this >> > > Self? >> > >> > > On Nov 18, 5:01 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > " My " or " will " is the agent of Nature and is bound by It though >> > > seeming >> > > > to be free. >> > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:36 PM, [email protected] < >> > >> > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > RP Singh, >> > >> > > > > I agree we are all products of our enviroments, I cannot cease to >> have >> > > > > dark hair even if I wished, but I can choose to apply some dye to >> it. >> > >> > > > > You used the word 'MY' quiet a lot in your response to me, along >> with >> > > > > the word 'WILL'. If you have no choice then what is this will you >> > > > > speak of? Who's will is it, how do you Will to strive? >> > >> > > > > On Nov 18, 3:19 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > As a new-born I had a short or long nose , blue or black eyes , >> > > blonde or >> > > > > > black hair, or a white or black complexion------------ was it >> > > determined >> > > > > by >> > > > > > me , no it was in my genes. I was not responsible for my genes >> and >> > > > > whoever >> > > > > > else was responsible but I was bound to them. Similarly my >> reason was >> > > > > sharp >> > > > > > or dull , my imagination was keen or dull , my grasping power >> was >> > > good >> > > > > or >> > > > > > otherwise -- all such things were due to my genes. The >> environment in >> > > > > which >> > > > > > I was born was not of my making , yet it acted and reacted on me >> and >> > > I >> > > > > acted >> > > > > > and reacted to it. My personality which eventually developed was >> a >> > > result >> > > > > of >> > > > > > this interaction and my will to strive , to improve myself , to >> learn >> > > > > > ----was innate in me and not of my own making. So if these >> things >> > > were >> > > > > not >> > > > > > in my hands I can say that I am bound even though seeming to be >> free. >> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:32 PM, [email protected] < >> > >> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > Ohh how I disagree with this. >> > >> > > > > > > It is clear that who we are, our very personalities are made >> from >> > > not >> > > > > > > only our experiances but our enviroment. Are we really not >> free >> > > > > > > though to make of ourselves something other than what we are? >> > >> > > > > > > Yes yes of course we are. The key is understanding, if we can >> > > > > > > understand what in our lives has made us 'Us' then we can >> surly >> > > > > > > change in any mannor we wish. Of course this must be true or >> > > things >> > > > > > > like cognative therapy would just not work. >> > >> > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:29 pm, RP <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > Man is bound by his actions and bound to his experiences. >> > > Whatever >> > > > > > > > actions have to be done man is bound by them , as also >> whatever >> > > > > > > > experiences he undergoes he is bound to them. People say >> > > marriages >> > > > > are >> > > > > > > > made in heaven , I say every action and every experience is >> > > destined >> > > > > > > > in heaven. In big things we are able to accept bondage but >> in >> > > small >> > > > > > > > things we think we are free , we are able to accept the >> > > importance of >> > > > > > > > our genes as also our environment , but our reason finds it >> hard >> > > to >> > > > > > > > understand and accept complete bondage.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan Be Paranoid. God is always building a better idiot!!!
