The identity is also called sameness, is whatever makes an entity definable and recognizable (law identity,principle of logic stating that an object is the same self. Personal identity refers to the numerical identity(continuity of existence) of persons through time identity formation the process of the development of distinct personal of an individual. Wiki references. Just like a computer you are saying it is what man puts in that computer. And just like a human because of their environment or what is imputed into them will be their identity? Or as a lump of clay you take that lump of clay and you can mold out of the lump of clay into a vase,or a pot or a statue. Somehow I think it goes a little deeper within a person. For example Father and Son: If the son is taken away from the Father at one year or even younger as you note you see the same traits in the son as the Father,hand movements the way he talks and the same smile and ect. So even though someways and things are imputed into a child through their environment weather it is a rough environment or an environment of education and the child becomes a Doctor or Scientist. It still does not change down in the generation's of their genes their intelligence's
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:07 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > A clone would be exactly like me but may differ in personality traits and > circumstances according to his upbringing. Due to some environmental factors > I might be a failure but he may be a success and as such his identity would > be completely different. If the same environment had been given to me I > would have been vastly different from what I am today and thus I would not > be what I am. I relate to my identity and what I am I would not be if the > identity had been different. There is essentially no difference between you > and me except that of identity and we cannot be said to be the same > individual. The fault in your assessment is that you consider yourself to be > something separate from your body which you are not. You consider yourself > to be an individual in a body and no matter what your personality and > station you consider it to be yours.The truth is you are one identity and I > am another , the only difference between us is that of identity. If your > past life and achievements were different it would not be you but that > other. > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> While I agree that personality has much to do with how we handle >> circumstances; it is not unusual for people to adopt personality >> traits seen in others. This is helpful in overcoming adverse >> circumstances that one might, otherwise, be inequiped to handle. I- >> dentity, however, might have little or nothing to do with either of >> these as it can be as fluid as anyone wishes or or is inclined to >> portray. What of those with multiple personality disorders? Would not >> you say that there are multiple identities at work or should they be >> identified as; by their circumstances ie; having a disorder? Very >> questionable thesis RP! I agree with rigsy that more factors should be >> taken into consideration. >> >> On Dec 16, 9:24 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > You still would have been yourself- with a different personality and >> > altered circumstances. You are not "fixed" like a statue of marble. >> > Humans are highly adaptable. Chance and luck have a huge impact on >> > lives and it is impossible to avoid challenges and surprises. Often >> > our strengths are hidden until provoked or summoned. Plus, you fail to >> > mention the enormous impact parents have on their children and there >> > are other "biggies" like war, poverty, intelligence, physical >> > attributes, religious beliefs or not, etc.// A friend braved the snow >> > Monday and came for lunch- really to show me the photo of a college >> > reunion last autumn that I did not attend- amazing to hear all the >> > dramas and traumas! :-) We have been friends since age 10 and >> > congratulated ourselves on all the good times- the fun times- the 50's >> > were a great decade, depending. Anyway, I finally filled in the blanks >> > of myself from 0 to 10 before we met and she told me to "write a >> > book"!!! >> > >> > On Dec 15, 1:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > I am what my identity is. If my personality and circumstances had been >> > > different , it would have been a different identity and that would >> have been >> > > someone else and not I.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > >
