Agreed- but there is something to be said for character and natural abilities which allows some to "step up to the plate" and others to fall on their face. While many of our qualities are inherited or mimicked via our parents and society, education and experience can form a new "leaf" of self, i.e., your judgement and response are different- one has additional options. Maturity, by itself, changes one (thank heavens! :-).) Thomas Jefferson is an example of a complicated person, for instance- and I can be complicated, myself, if I do say so, but it is not an easy state as others like to figure people out in a flash for their own comfort and convenience.//Do you think our existence was ever meant to be a continuous state of "happiness"? Do you think being "sociable" is always positive ( what about a sociable Nazi or Muslim terrorist)?//That "tramas" leave a mark is probably true but I am not sure it always has to be negative- it can also spur a richness of empathy and creativity (music, literature, etc.).
On Dec 16, 6:07 pm, Diego <[email protected]> wrote: > Have you realized about your own identity change through time? This > topic made me think, and i started to believe that, my identity has > changed because of different situations in my life, for instance when > we were a child, when we were teenagers, when we started to study in > university or work. I think that the identity is defined by desires, > wishes, needs, social life, and economical life. When I reached some > important objective in my life, I began to think in other things and > do other activities that made me behave different. Also a traumatic > event in past times made me change my personality and I became less > happy and less sociable for a long time. > > On 16 dic, 12:46, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I will give you this much; I am me and no one else; No one else is me > > nor can be. You have me mistaken for one who believes that we have > > souls! I, on the contrary, believe we ARE souls. > > > On Dec 16, 11:07 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A clone would be exactly like me but may differ in personality traits and > > > circumstances according to his upbringing. Due to some environmental > > > factors > > > I might be a failure but he may be a success and as such his identity > > > would > > > be completely different. If the same environment had been given to me I > > > would have been vastly different from what I am today and thus I would not > > > be what I am. I relate to my identity and what I am I would not be if the > > > identity had been different. There is essentially no difference between > > > you > > > and me except that of identity and we cannot be said to be the same > > > individual. The fault in your assessment is that you consider yourself to > > > be > > > something separate from your body which you are not. You consider yourself > > > to be an individual in a body and no matter what your personality and > > > station you consider it to be yours.The truth is you are one identity and > > > I > > > am another , the only difference between us is that of identity. If your > > > past life and achievements were different it would not be you but that > > > other. > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, DarkwaterBlight > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > While I agree that personality has much to do with how we handle > > > > circumstances; it is not unusual for people to adopt personality > > > > traits seen in others. This is helpful in overcoming adverse > > > > circumstances that one might, otherwise, be inequiped to handle. I- > > > > dentity, however, might have little or nothing to do with either of > > > > these as it can be as fluid as anyone wishes or or is inclined to > > > > portray. What of those with multiple personality disorders? Would not > > > > you say that there are multiple identities at work or should they be > > > > identified as; by their circumstances ie; having a disorder? Very > > > > questionable thesis RP! I agree with rigsy that more factors should be > > > > taken into consideration. > > > > > On Dec 16, 9:24 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You still would have been yourself- with a different personality and > > > > > altered circumstances. You are not "fixed" like a statue of marble. > > > > > Humans are highly adaptable. Chance and luck have a huge impact on > > > > > lives and it is impossible to avoid challenges and surprises. Often > > > > > our strengths are hidden until provoked or summoned. Plus, you fail to > > > > > mention the enormous impact parents have on their children and there > > > > > are other "biggies" like war, poverty, intelligence, physical > > > > > attributes, religious beliefs or not, etc.// A friend braved the snow > > > > > Monday and came for lunch- really to show me the photo of a college > > > > > reunion last autumn that I did not attend- amazing to hear all the > > > > > dramas and traumas! :-) We have been friends since age 10 and > > > > > congratulated ourselves on all the good times- the fun times- the 50's > > > > > were a great decade, depending. Anyway, I finally filled in the blanks > > > > > of myself from 0 to 10 before we met and she told me to "write a > > > > > book"!!! > > > > > > On Dec 15, 1:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am what my identity is. If my personality and circumstances had > > > > > > been > > > > > > different , it would have been a different identity and that would > > > > > > have > > > > been > > > > > > someone else and not I.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Ocultar texto de la cita - > > > - Mostrar texto de la cita -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
