I like the statement made by some that excellence is a habit. Of course
behavior is encouraged by our talents and environments, but the idea
that one can persevere by acquainting and familiarizing with good
character traits is inspiring.
On 12/18/2010 8:19 AM, rigsy03 wrote:
Agreed- but there is something to be said for character and natural
abilities which allows some to "step up to the plate" and others to
fall on their face. While many of our qualities are inherited or
mimicked via our parents and society, education and experience can
form a new "leaf" of self, i.e., your judgement and response are
different- one has additional options. Maturity, by itself, changes
one (thank heavens! :-).) Thomas Jefferson is an example of a
complicated person, for instance- and I can be complicated, myself, if
I do say so, but it is not an easy state as others like to figure
people out in a flash for their own comfort and convenience.//Do you
think our existence was ever meant to be a continuous state of
"happiness"? Do you think being "sociable" is always positive ( what
about a sociable Nazi or Muslim terrorist)?//That "tramas" leave a
mark is probably true but I am not sure it always has to be negative-
it can also spur a richness of empathy and creativity (music,
literature, etc.).
On Dec 16, 6:07 pm, Diego<[email protected]> wrote:
Have you realized about your own identity change through time? This
topic made me think, and i started to believe that, my identity has
changed because of different situations in my life, for instance when
we were a child, when we were teenagers, when we started to study in
university or work. I think that the identity is defined by desires,
wishes, needs, social life, and economical life. When I reached some
important objective in my life, I began to think in other things and
do other activities that made me behave different. Also a traumatic
event in past times made me change my personality and I became less
happy and less sociable for a long time.
On 16 dic, 12:46, DarkwaterBlight<[email protected]> wrote:
I will give you this much; I am me and no one else; No one else is me
nor can be. You have me mistaken for one who believes that we have
souls! I, on the contrary, believe we ARE souls.
On Dec 16, 11:07 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
A clone would be exactly like me but may differ in personality traits and
circumstances according to his upbringing. Due to some environmental factors
I might be a failure but he may be a success and as such his identity would
be completely different. If the same environment had been given to me I
would have been vastly different from what I am today and thus I would not
be what I am. I relate to my identity and what I am I would not be if the
identity had been different. There is essentially no difference between you
and me except that of identity and we cannot be said to be the same
individual. The fault in your assessment is that you consider yourself to be
something separate from your body which you are not. You consider yourself
to be an individual in a body and no matter what your personality and
station you consider it to be yours.The truth is you are one identity and I
am another , the only difference between us is that of identity. If your
past life and achievements were different it would not be you but that
other.
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:52 PM, DarkwaterBlight
<[email protected]>wrote:
While I agree that personality has much to do with how we handle
circumstances; it is not unusual for people to adopt personality
traits seen in others. This is helpful in overcoming adverse
circumstances that one might, otherwise, be inequiped to handle. I-
dentity, however, might have little or nothing to do with either of
these as it can be as fluid as anyone wishes or or is inclined to
portray. What of those with multiple personality disorders? Would not
you say that there are multiple identities at work or should they be
identified as; by their circumstances ie; having a disorder? Very
questionable thesis RP! I agree with rigsy that more factors should be
taken into consideration.
On Dec 16, 9:24 am, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote:
You still would have been yourself- with a different personality and
altered circumstances. You are not "fixed" like a statue of marble.
Humans are highly adaptable. Chance and luck have a huge impact on
lives and it is impossible to avoid challenges and surprises. Often
our strengths are hidden until provoked or summoned. Plus, you fail to
mention the enormous impact parents have on their children and there
are other "biggies" like war, poverty, intelligence, physical
attributes, religious beliefs or not, etc.// A friend braved the snow
Monday and came for lunch- really to show me the photo of a college
reunion last autumn that I did not attend- amazing to hear all the
dramas and traumas! :-) We have been friends since age 10 and
congratulated ourselves on all the good times- the fun times- the 50's
were a great decade, depending. Anyway, I finally filled in the blanks
of myself from 0 to 10 before we met and she told me to "write a
book"!!!
On Dec 15, 1:25 pm, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
I am what my identity is. If my personality and circumstances had been
different , it would have been a different identity and that would have
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