Oops! season greetings to every one and have a safe and happy holiday Allan
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:57 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Me, too, Molly! Merry Christmas (or Merry Merchandise)! >> >> On Dec 24, 5:55 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Merry Christmas to you, Manfranco, and to everyone. I look forward to >> > stimulating camaraderie in the new year here at Mind's Eye. >> > >> > On Dec 23, 4:32 pm, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi you all! >> > > I find that being a bit greedy is a good thing, because it makes you >> > > wanting to do something which maybe helps you somehow in the future. >> > > Anyhow, because tomorrow is Christmas, I want to wish you all a merry >> > > Christmas and a happy new year. >> > > Manfraco >> > >> > > On Dec 23, 10:39 pm, "[email protected]" >> > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Ohh how I disagree with the latter part of this. >> > >> > > > I settle for what I need, and also manage to get what I want. I >> feel >> > > > neither mediocore nor do I live in poverty(anymore). >> > >> > > > You say settle I say satisfied, there is a hell of a differance >> > > > between these two words. >> > >> > > > On Dec 23, 6:27 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > I think you are correct. We can only judge ourselves. Eating more >> food then >> > > > > you need is gluttony, btw. Guilty. Hording might be considered >> greedy I >> > > > > suppose if you're hording what others need now and you are >> unlikely to need >> > > > > it for yourself and yet you still refuse to sell it to or trade to >> others >> > > > > that need it more then you. >> > >> > > > > Taking or buying or collecting or working for only what you need >> sounds like >> > > > > a really boring life to me. I want more then what I need. For me >> and the >> > > > > ones I love. If that is greed then greed is good. Settling for >> just what you >> > > > > need all your life will leave you and yours wallowing in >> mediocrity and >> > > > > relative poverty. I'll leave that to the pious. I'll wallow in my >> greed. >> > >> > > > > dj >> > >> > > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, [email protected] < >> > >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > You've had enough? Have people been calling you greedy and you >> > > > > > disagree with them? >> > >> > > > > > Greed is the desire for more than you need. You are correct I >> think, >> > > > > > that ones needs can only really be suitably defined by the >> person in >> > > > > > need. Art I think must be treated differanlty than say food. >> > >> > > > > > If you have enough food and yet desire more, this is greed, >> easpecily >> > > > > > when you have so much that most gets wasted. >> > >> > > > > > Perhaps then we should talk in terms of supply and waste. If it >> your >> > > > > > goal to accumilate so much money that you cannot hope to spend >> it all >> > > > > > in your lifetime, then I would also call that greed. So intent, >> > > > > > supply, and waste. >> > >> > > > > > On Dec 12, 9:55 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > The word “greed” is tossed out so often and it always >> intrigues me >> > > > > > > just what people mean by it. Just what is “greed?” Some >> people (no >> > > > > > > names) toss this word off their fingertips all the time and >> frankly I >> > > > > > > HAVE HAD ENOUGH. >> > >> > > > > > > Webster defines this word as… >> > > > > > > : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as >> money) than >> > > > > > > is needed. >> > >> > > > > > > Ok, let’s take a more careful look at that definition. Let’s >> say a >> > > > > > > very rich person spends a million dollars on a painting that >> he just >> > > > > > > loves. He thinks this painting is so remarkable, so >> beautiful, that >> > > > > > > he is willing to buy it for a million dollars so he can look >> at it >> > > > > > > every day in his house. Me personally? I would never spend >> a >> > > > > > > million dollars on a painting, but that is just me. That >> painting, or >> > > > > > > ANY painting, is not something I am interested in buying at >> that >> > > > > > > price, even if I was filthy rich. But the things that I buy >> would >> > > > > > > curl your hair as they might seem so “strange” to YOU, but not >> to me. >> > > > > > > Everybody is different, and this is a very important thing to >> > > > > > > consider. NOBODY can judge what another person finds >> important, >> > > > > > > interesting, beautiful, desirable, or worthwhile. (Just look >> at your >> > > > > > > hairstyle…smily thingee goes here) >> > >> > > > > > > The question is…is that greed? I don’t think so. Is buying >> anything >> > > > > > > that one does not “need” greed? Hell no! you better check >> your >> > > > > > > inventory of your life if that is the case, you would find >> that every >> > > > > > > human on earth is greedy, and therefore the definition is >> rendered >> > > > > > > meaningless. The definition clearly states “an EXCESSIVE >> desire for >> > > > > > > MORE of SOMETHING” >> > >> > > > > > > This says to me that greed is only achieved when you >> already HAVE >> > > > > > > “enough” of this particular “thing” and yet you want more >> anyway. You >> > > > > > > want more than you can actually “benefit” from because you >> already >> > > > > > > have “it” THAT is greed. When you “hoard” something for no >> reason, >> > > > > > > and NOT when you simply “want” something that you don’t have. >> Wanting >> > > > > > > something IS NOT GREED. Get that through your fricking head. >> Wanting >> > > > > > > something that is not “needed” is not greed. Wanting >> something you >> > > > > > > already have plenty of is greed. >> > >> > > > > > > Which brings us, inevitably, to money. Money can be turned >> into >> > > > > > > ANYTHING, so one cannot say that you have a quantity of this >> > > > > > > particular one “thing” that meets the classic definition of >> greed, >> > > > > > > UNTIL YOU CLARIFY IT. It is not “one thing” it is “anything >> I can >> > > > > > > think of” so it must be treated slightly differently. Now, >> if you >> > > > > > > want a billion dollars but your actual, realistic “wants and >> needs” >> > > > > > > are only a million dollars, then you are greedy. But if you >> have >> > > > > > > reasonable plans for every single dollar? THAT IS NOT GREED, >> THAT IS >> > > > > > > PERFECTLY NORMAL GODDAMIT.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
