It was a strange and yes at times a wonderfull upbringing I had. You understand of coures that although I grew up knowing all of my siblings we were spread out over several households. I grew up with another four of us in the house, three brothers and one sister.
On Jan 6, 1:41 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > That's "massive"! :-) It sounds wonderful to an only child but > thinking back, my best friend from a large family used to dash to my > home for some peace and quiet! And still does! > > My neighbor and I were billed twice the normal amount for snow removal > last month so we have girded our loins for battle! The guy has not > returned our calls...what a coward! A week ago I thought he was my > personal savior and a hunk to boot! Boy- I sure misjudge men. lol > > On Jan 6, 6:22 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hey Rigsy, you sound eliteish and snobby? Naaa I did not think so. > > > Massive FYI in this instance means that I am the oldest of 16 > > children. > > > On Jan 1, 4:03 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yes- we do sink into our own experience and understanding and I am > > > sorry if my question sounded elitish or snobbish because that was not > > > its intent. In the back of my mind were the family farms that are no > > > longer able to compete with corporations or the miserable property > > > taxes for those who have retired, lost jobs, etc. Money is moveable- > > > land/property is not so sometimes one feels captive. > > > > I learned more being broke- it really spurred creativity and a healthy > > > survival instinct. My library card was my "credit card". Again, those > > > years at a boarding school taught some valuable lessons regarding a > > > simple life that was in total contrast to my parent's lifestyle. I > > > pretty much depend on my children learning how to be self-sufficient > > > though that has had some consequences- but mostly positive. > > > > But we are not captains of our own ships, are we? > > > > When I think of dire straits, I think of Pakistan floods or Haiti's > > > earthquake or Austrailia's floods, etc. It is Nature that seems the > > > harshest foe to come up against. > > > > My parents came from large (what is "massive" :-) ) families and they > > > were the "success stories"- except for all the unhappiness- but that > > > is another story. > > > > Anyway- good for you and your own journey! > > > > On Dec 31 2010, 7:14 am, "[email protected]" > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > What has happend to the concept of family fortunes? I think that > > > > concept is still strong, alive and kicking in those who's family have > > > > had money for generations. > > > > > Myself I come from a massive family, and because it is massive it is > > > > also poor. I grew up in real poverty and so as you might expect I > > > > have worked hard, and now findmyself quite well off indeed thank you > > > > very much. > > > > > From my POV, and I would guess my feelings are similar to those from a > > > > similar background, the lesson for my kids is work hard to get what > > > > you desire. So when it comes to inherantance they will be gettting a > > > > little, but the majority I'll probaly leave to charity. > > > > > That is the thing with concepts, we will view them differant dependant > > > > on our view which of course comes larglye from our upbring and lifes > > > > experiances. > > > > > On Dec 31, 12:52 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > What has happened to the concept of family fortunes and the desire to > > > > > provide for future progeny? It's become a pariah within the liberal- > > > > > socialist agenda of equalizing the population. My feeling is if > > > > > someone earns the money it is his-after taxes. tithing or whatever his > > > > > nature or conscience drive him to distribute. It is not the public's > > > > > business to determine how others spend their money- most likely it > > > > > springs from envy- however, the government's greed and waste are valid > > > > > concerns. > > > > > > On Dec 28, 5:05 pm, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 22, 5:35 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You've had enough? Have people been calling you greedy and you > > > > > > > disagree with them? > > > > > > > No, just wanted some clarification on the use of the word is all. > > > > > > > > Greed is the desire for more than you need. You are correct I > > > > > > > think, > > > > > > > that ones needs can only really be suitably defined by the person > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > need. Art I think must be treated differanlty than say food. > > > > > > > > If you have enough food and yet desire more, this is greed, > > > > > > > easpecily > > > > > > > when you have so much that most gets wasted. > > > > > > > > Perhaps then we should talk in terms of supply and waste. If it > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > goal to accumilate so much money that you cannot hope to spend it > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > in your lifetime, then I would also call that greed. So intent, > > > > > > > supply, and waste. > > > > > > > Sounds reasonable. > > > > > > > > On Dec 12, 9:55 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The word “greed” is tossed out so often and it always intrigues > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > just what people mean by it. Just what is “greed?” Some people > > > > > > > > (no > > > > > > > > names) toss this word off their fingertips all the time and > > > > > > > > frankly I > > > > > > > > HAVE HAD ENOUGH. > > > > > > > > > Webster defines this word as… > > > > > > > > : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as > > > > > > > > money) than > > > > > > > > is needed. > > > > > > > > > Ok, let’s take a more careful look at that definition. Let’s > > > > > > > > say a > > > > > > > > very rich person spends a million dollars on a painting that he > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > loves. He thinks this painting is so remarkable, so beautiful, > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > he is willing to buy it for a million dollars so he can look at > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > every day in his house. Me personally? I would never spend a > > > > > > > > million dollars on a painting, but that is just me. That > > > > > > > > painting, or > > > > > > > > ANY painting, is not something I am interested in buying at that > > > > > > > > price, even if I was filthy rich. But the things that I buy > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > curl your hair as they might seem so “strange” to YOU, but not > > > > > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > Everybody is different, and this is a very important thing to > > > > > > > > consider. NOBODY can judge what another person finds important, > > > > > > > > interesting, beautiful, desirable, or worthwhile. (Just look > > > > > > > > at your > > > > > > > > hairstyle…smily thingee goes here) > > > > > > > > > The question is…is that greed? I don’t think so. Is buying > > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > that one does not “need” greed? Hell no! you better check your > > > > > > > > inventory of your life if that is the case, you would find that > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > human on earth is greedy, and therefore the definition is > > > > > > > > rendered > > > > > > > > meaningless. The definition clearly states “an EXCESSIVE > > > > > > > > desire for > > > > > > > > MORE of SOMETHING” > > > > > > > > > This says to me that greed is only achieved when you already > > > > > > > > HAVE > > > > > > > > “enough” of this particular “thing” and yet you want more > > > > > > > > anyway. You > > > > > > > > want more than you can actually “benefit” from because you > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > have “it” THAT is greed. When you “hoard” something for no > > > > > > > > reason, > > > > > > > > and NOT when you simply “want” something that you don’t have. > > > > > > > > Wanting > > > > > > > > something IS NOT GREED. Get that through your fricking head. > > > > > > > > Wanting > > > > > > > > something that is not “needed” is not greed. Wanting > > > > > > > > something you > > > > > > > > already have plenty of is greed. > > > > > > > > > Which brings us, inevitably, to money. Money can be turned > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > ANYTHING, so one cannot say that you have a quantity of this > > > > > > > > particular one “thing” that meets the classic definition of > > > > > > > > greed, > > > > > > > > UNTIL YOU CLARIFY IT. It is not “one thing” it is “anything I > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > think of” so it must be treated slightly differently. Now, if > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > want a billion dollars but your actual, realistic “wants and > > > > > > > > needs” > > > > > > > > are only a million dollars, then you are greedy. But if you have > > > > > > > > reasonable plans for every single dollar? 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