Holy Days that are safe from greed. Never seen it this way, Iam. Good
argument against this seasonal greetings nihilism.
Am 24.12.2010 20:58 schrieb "iam deheretic" <[email protected]>:
> Oops! season greetings to every one and have a safe and happy holiday
> Allan
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:57 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>
wrote:
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>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Me, too, Molly! Merry Christmas (or Merry Merchandise)!
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 5:55 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Merry Christmas to you, Manfranco, and to everyone. I look forward to
>>> > stimulating camaraderie in the new year here at Mind's Eye.
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 23, 4:32 pm, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Hi you all!
>>> > > I find that being a bit greedy is a good thing, because it makes you
>>> > > wanting to do something which maybe helps you somehow in the future.
>>> > > Anyhow, because tomorrow is Christmas, I want to wish you all a
merry
>>> > > Christmas and a happy new year.
>>> > > Manfraco
>>> >
>>> > > On Dec 23, 10:39 pm, "[email protected]"
>>> >
>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > > > Ohh how I disagree with the latter part of this.
>>> >
>>> > > > I settle for what I need, and also manage to get what I want. I
>>> feel
>>> > > > neither mediocore nor do I live in poverty(anymore).
>>> >
>>> > > > You say settle I say satisfied, there is a hell of a differance
>>> > > > between these two words.
>>> >
>>> > > > On Dec 23, 6:27 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > I think you are correct. We can only judge ourselves. Eating
more
>>> food then
>>> > > > > you need is gluttony, btw. Guilty. Hording might be considered
>>> greedy I
>>> > > > > suppose if you're hording what others need now and you are
>>> unlikely to need
>>> > > > > it for yourself and yet you still refuse to sell it to or trade
to
>>> others
>>> > > > > that need it more then you.
>>> >
>>> > > > > Taking or buying or collecting or working for only what you need
>>> sounds like
>>> > > > > a really boring life to me. I want more then what I need. For me
>>> and the
>>> > > > > ones I love. If that is greed then greed is good. Settling for
>>> just what you
>>> > > > > need all your life will leave you and yours wallowing in
>>> mediocrity and
>>> > > > > relative poverty. I'll leave that to the pious. I'll wallow in
my
>>> greed.
>>> >
>>> > > > > dj
>>> >
>>> > > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, [email protected] <
>>> >
>>> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> > > > > > You've had enough? Have people been calling you greedy and you
>>> > > > > > disagree with them?
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Greed is the desire for more than you need. You are correct I
>>> think,
>>> > > > > > that ones needs can only really be suitably defined by the
>>> person in
>>> > > > > > need. Art I think must be treated differanlty than say food.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > If you have enough food and yet desire more, this is greed,
>>> easpecily
>>> > > > > > when you have so much that most gets wasted.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Perhaps then we should talk in terms of supply and waste. If
it
>>> your
>>> > > > > > goal to accumilate so much money that you cannot hope to spend
>>> it all
>>> > > > > > in your lifetime, then I would also call that greed. So
intent,
>>> > > > > > supply, and waste.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > On Dec 12, 9:55 am, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > > > > > > The word “greed” is tossed out so often and it always
>>> intrigues me
>>> > > > > > > just what people mean by it. Just what is “greed?” Some
>>> people (no
>>> > > > > > > names) toss this word off their fingertips all the time and
>>> frankly I
>>> > > > > > > HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > Webster defines this word as…
>>> > > > > > > : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as
>>> money) than
>>> > > > > > > is needed.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > Ok, let’s take a more careful look at that definition. Let’s
>>> say a
>>> > > > > > > very rich person spends a million dollars on a painting that
>>> he just
>>> > > > > > > loves. He thinks this painting is so remarkable, so
>>> beautiful, that
>>> > > > > > > he is willing to buy it for a million dollars so he can look
>>> at it
>>> > > > > > > every day in his house. Me personally? I would never spend
>>> a
>>> > > > > > > million dollars on a painting, but that is just me. That
>>> painting, or
>>> > > > > > > ANY painting, is not something I am interested in buying at
>>> that
>>> > > > > > > price, even if I was filthy rich. But the things that I buy
>>> would
>>> > > > > > > curl your hair as they might seem so “strange” to YOU, but
not
>>> to me.
>>> > > > > > > Everybody is different, and this is a very important thing
to
>>> > > > > > > consider. NOBODY can judge what another person finds
>>> important,
>>> > > > > > > interesting, beautiful, desirable, or worthwhile. (Just look
>>> at your
>>> > > > > > > hairstyle…smily thingee goes here)
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > The question is…is that greed? I don’t think so. Is buying
>>> anything
>>> > > > > > > that one does not “need” greed? Hell no! you better check
>>> your
>>> > > > > > > inventory of your life if that is the case, you would find
>>> that every
>>> > > > > > > human on earth is greedy, and therefore the definition is
>>> rendered
>>> > > > > > > meaningless. The definition clearly states “an EXCESSIVE
>>> desire for
>>> > > > > > > MORE of SOMETHING”
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > This says to me that greed is only achieved when you
>>> already HAVE
>>> > > > > > > “enough” of this particular “thing” and yet you want more
>>> anyway. You
>>> > > > > > > want more than you can actually “benefit” from because you
>>> already
>>> > > > > > > have “it” THAT is greed. When you “hoard” something for no
>>> reason,
>>> > > > > > > and NOT when you simply “want” something that you don’t
have.
>>> Wanting
>>> > > > > > > something IS NOT GREED. Get that through your fricking head.
>>> Wanting
>>> > > > > > > something that is not “needed” is not greed. Wanting
>>> something you
>>> > > > > > > already have plenty of is greed.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > Which brings us, inevitably, to money. Money can be turned
>>> into
>>> > > > > > > ANYTHING, so one cannot say that you have a quantity of this
>>> > > > > > > particular one “thing” that meets the classic definition of
>>> greed,
>>> > > > > > > UNTIL YOU CLARIFY IT. It is not “one thing” it is “anything
>>> I can
>>> > > > > > > think of” so it must be treated slightly differently. Now,
>>> if you
>>> > > > > > > want a billion dollars but your actual, realistic “wants and
>>> needs”
>>> > > > > > > are only a million dollars, then you are greedy. But if you
>>> have
>>> > > > > > > reasonable plans for every single dollar? THAT IS NOT GREED,
>>> THAT IS
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>> I_D Allan
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>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
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> I_D Allan
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> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
