There was gold enough in the Americas for the Aztecs and Incas. It was the reason for the conquistador's visitation. Discoverers were intent on gold and spices to bring back to their respective kingdoms- wars, conquests, cathedrals and castles need a steady supply of dough. :-)
On Dec 31, 3:29 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On Dec 30, 10:06 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry pat you need to redo your history a bit I don't buy the lies of > > jewish (hebrew) history.. It is strange that the archology is not verifying > > your concept. > > Alexander only played a minor role the last four hundred years. Tomb robbing > > occurred through out egyptian history but the gold did not show up among the > > general population,, which whould imply it was stolen by outsiders. > > Allan > > What I put forward regarding the Pharoah at the time of Moses has > nothing to do with Jewish/Hebrew history but modern research. I'm > absolutely convinced that it was Amenhotep III, as no other scenario > even comes close to aking sense; it even fits in closer to the > Santorini explosion because it's closer to mid-second millenium BCE > than the Ramesses/Seti/Ramesses scenario. > > As for the gold...I could only guess. If I guessed incorrectly as to > how it may have moved about, I don't reckon I'll lose much sleep over > it. Probably because one thing's for sure...NONE of it reached MY > pocket. ;-) > > As far as 'outsiders' go, though, how about the Carthaginians? They > were nearby and rather formidible; it's possible they raided a bit. I > don't think the Hittites reached THAT far south, so I think we can > rule them out. But we KNOW that several tombs had already been > raided, as the evidence of previous plunder was obvious on their re- > discovery. As for the MAIN cahes of gold, heck, I still say it's > anybody's guess and that's all I was putting forward...my guesses. > Crikey, we can barely guess at what happened 3 years ago (do you > remember what you had for breakfast on 31-Dec-2007?), even 30 years > ago is blanketed by political broom-sweeping and 300 years ago??? As > for 2300+ years ago, we don't stand much of a chance, as every day > that went by wasn't recorded very acurately. It could be that the > Aztecs and Incas got THEIR gold from the Egyptians via many a years > marketeering. > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 19, 10:15 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am hoping someone has the answers as they have been bugging me and the > > > > more I find out the more I don't understand. > > > > > I was taught that the Egyptian pyramids were built by jewish slave labor > > > > turns out that archeology shows that they were built by by the > > > > Egyptians > > > > themselves part of their tax system. the other thing I am finding out is > > > > that they had no currency other than barter for grain. Ramses had > > > grainery > > > > complex large enough to feed all of egypt for over a year ,, now that is > > > a > > > > lot of grain.. and the nile is a tremendous agricultural area very > > > fertile. > > > > > Now the only coins known to be minted were created by cleaopatra and > > > > were > > > of > > > > a helenistic design and were never in circulation. > > > > Now the Pharaohs are well known for the love of Gold in their burials > > > and > > > > lots of it to. Now to my knowledge there are no major sources of Gold > > > within > > > > the Egyptian borders which is not a problem as they had plenty of grain > > > to > > > > trade for all the gold they wanted.. > > > > Nomadic tribes by their nature are not large 30 to 50 people at best. > > > > not > > > > hundreds of thousands as taught. one of the questions is what happened > > > to > > > > the jews and just where were they? maybe still nomadic traders?? Isreal > > > has > > > > no major gold mines to my knowledge. and apparently slavery was not a > > > big > > > > thing either, although i am sure the was some trade in it.. just like > > > today > > > > it exist world wide,, but is not major.. > > > > > The other question comes from the burial rites and the shear quantity of > > > > gold that was involved disappearing by tomb robbers, that would be like > > > > stealing all the gold out of the us depository at fort knox which is > > > > over > > > > 4,000 tonnes of gold andit is small comparired to new york's vault > > > > which > > > is > > > > over 5,000 tonnes. what happened to all this gold it apparently does > > > > not > > > > show up in the ancient Egyptian culture > > > > > My questions come to this > > > > 1: Where were all the jews in egypt in ancient times what did they > > > actually > > > > do? > > > > 2: What happened to all the burial gold that was stolen from the tombs > > > and > > > > we are not talking about a few ounces either more like it the areas of > > > tons. > > > > > I hope some one can help me with these answers to these questions > > > > Allan > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > Allan, Ramesses the Great/Seti I/Ramesses II was Hollywood! > > > > The Pharoah at the time of Moses was Amenhotep III. His eldest son, > > > Prince Tuthmose (Tutmosis) WAS Moses. Although most 'scholars' say > > > that Crown Prince Tuthmose 'predeceased' his father, I don't think > > > so. The 'Tut'/'Tuth' prefix was a testimony that he was dedicated to > > > Thoth (although he was a Priest of Ptah, the Creator God), the rest, > > > 'Mose/Mosis' was his proper name (Musa/Moshe). When they discovered > > > Crown Prince Tuthmose's tomb, his body was NOT entombed there, in > > > fact, the only mummy IN the tomb was his pet cat. I think that's most > > > likely because Moses LEFT Egypt and worshipped a different God. This > > > would NOT have gone down well in Egypt and, subsequently, the poor boy > > > was disinherited. When Amenhotep III died, his son, Akhenamun, who > > > had seen the power of Moses' God, became the first monotheistic > > > Pharoah of Egypt changed his name to Akhenaten. His son, Tutankhamun > > > (originally Tutankhaten!!) didn't last long as the old priests wanted > > > their jobs back and Egypt was back to being polytheistic. > > > > The Hebrew (not Jewish!!) slaves would hav ehelped do all sorts of > > > things, but they weren't slaves forever. The Egyptian dynasties go > > > farther back than 400 years prior to Amenhotep III. And, of course, > > > one would think that it wasn't only the Hebrews that they enslaved > > > over time. Nubians and Abyssinians would have been subjugated as > > > well. But, the Egyptians themselves would have been honoured to help > > > build a pyramid for a well-liked Pharoah. > > > > The Jews were in Goshen, on the Eastern side of the Nile Delta. As > > > for the gold, I think it was stolen and used by those who raided tombs > > > and, of course, by those who conquered Egypt. Think Alexander!! He > > > would have distrbuted much gold around Greece and the Ptolemaic > > > dynasty that he created would hav esold a lot of it to keep the > > > peace. I reckon most of the Egyptian gold was gone by the time of > > > Cleopatra. And, then, one has to think of the Islamic invasions and > > > Crusader invasions that took place after that. Plenty of time to > > > spoil. > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
