On Dec 30, 10:06 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry pat you need to redo your history a bit I don't buy the lies of > jewish (hebrew) history.. It is strange that the archology is not verifying > your concept. > Alexander only played a minor role the last four hundred years. Tomb robbing > occurred through out egyptian history but the gold did not show up among the > general population,, which whould imply it was stolen by outsiders. > Allan >
What I put forward regarding the Pharoah at the time of Moses has nothing to do with Jewish/Hebrew history but modern research. I'm absolutely convinced that it was Amenhotep III, as no other scenario even comes close to aking sense; it even fits in closer to the Santorini explosion because it's closer to mid-second millenium BCE than the Ramesses/Seti/Ramesses scenario. As for the gold...I could only guess. If I guessed incorrectly as to how it may have moved about, I don't reckon I'll lose much sleep over it. Probably because one thing's for sure...NONE of it reached MY pocket. ;-) As far as 'outsiders' go, though, how about the Carthaginians? They were nearby and rather formidible; it's possible they raided a bit. I don't think the Hittites reached THAT far south, so I think we can rule them out. But we KNOW that several tombs had already been raided, as the evidence of previous plunder was obvious on their re- discovery. As for the MAIN cahes of gold, heck, I still say it's anybody's guess and that's all I was putting forward...my guesses. Crikey, we can barely guess at what happened 3 years ago (do you remember what you had for breakfast on 31-Dec-2007?), even 30 years ago is blanketed by political broom-sweeping and 300 years ago??? As for 2300+ years ago, we don't stand much of a chance, as every day that went by wasn't recorded very acurately. It could be that the Aztecs and Incas got THEIR gold from the Egyptians via many a years marketeering. > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Dec 19, 10:15 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am hoping someone has the answers as they have been bugging me and the > > > more I find out the more I don't understand. > > > > I was taught that the Egyptian pyramids were built by jewish slave labor > > > turns out that archeology shows that they were built by by the Egyptians > > > themselves part of their tax system. the other thing I am finding out is > > > that they had no currency other than barter for grain. Ramses had > > grainery > > > complex large enough to feed all of egypt for over a year ,, now that is > > a > > > lot of grain.. and the nile is a tremendous agricultural area very > > fertile. > > > > Now the only coins known to be minted were created by cleaopatra and were > > of > > > a helenistic design and were never in circulation. > > > Now the Pharaohs are well known for the love of Gold in their burials > > and > > > lots of it to. Now to my knowledge there are no major sources of Gold > > within > > > the Egyptian borders which is not a problem as they had plenty of grain > > to > > > trade for all the gold they wanted.. > > > Nomadic tribes by their nature are not large 30 to 50 people at best. not > > > hundreds of thousands as taught. one of the questions is what happened > > to > > > the jews and just where were they? maybe still nomadic traders?? Isreal > > has > > > no major gold mines to my knowledge. and apparently slavery was not a > > big > > > thing either, although i am sure the was some trade in it.. just like > > today > > > it exist world wide,, but is not major.. > > > > The other question comes from the burial rites and the shear quantity of > > > gold that was involved disappearing by tomb robbers, that would be like > > > stealing all the gold out of the us depository at fort knox which is over > > > 4,000 tonnes of gold andit is small comparired to new york's vault which > > is > > > over 5,000 tonnes. what happened to all this gold it apparently does not > > > show up in the ancient Egyptian culture > > > > My questions come to this > > > 1: Where were all the jews in egypt in ancient times what did they > > actually > > > do? > > > 2: What happened to all the burial gold that was stolen from the tombs > > and > > > we are not talking about a few ounces either more like it the areas of > > tons. > > > > I hope some one can help me with these answers to these questions > > > Allan > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > Allan, Ramesses the Great/Seti I/Ramesses II was Hollywood! > > > The Pharoah at the time of Moses was Amenhotep III. His eldest son, > > Prince Tuthmose (Tutmosis) WAS Moses. Although most 'scholars' say > > that Crown Prince Tuthmose 'predeceased' his father, I don't think > > so. The 'Tut'/'Tuth' prefix was a testimony that he was dedicated to > > Thoth (although he was a Priest of Ptah, the Creator God), the rest, > > 'Mose/Mosis' was his proper name (Musa/Moshe). When they discovered > > Crown Prince Tuthmose's tomb, his body was NOT entombed there, in > > fact, the only mummy IN the tomb was his pet cat. I think that's most > > likely because Moses LEFT Egypt and worshipped a different God. This > > would NOT have gone down well in Egypt and, subsequently, the poor boy > > was disinherited. When Amenhotep III died, his son, Akhenamun, who > > had seen the power of Moses' God, became the first monotheistic > > Pharoah of Egypt changed his name to Akhenaten. His son, Tutankhamun > > (originally Tutankhaten!!) didn't last long as the old priests wanted > > their jobs back and Egypt was back to being polytheistic. > > > The Hebrew (not Jewish!!) slaves would hav ehelped do all sorts of > > things, but they weren't slaves forever. The Egyptian dynasties go > > farther back than 400 years prior to Amenhotep III. And, of course, > > one would think that it wasn't only the Hebrews that they enslaved > > over time. Nubians and Abyssinians would have been subjugated as > > well. But, the Egyptians themselves would have been honoured to help > > build a pyramid for a well-liked Pharoah. > > > The Jews were in Goshen, on the Eastern side of the Nile Delta. As > > for the gold, I think it was stolen and used by those who raided tombs > > and, of course, by those who conquered Egypt. Think Alexander!! He > > would have distrbuted much gold around Greece and the Ptolemaic > > dynasty that he created would hav esold a lot of it to keep the > > peace. I reckon most of the Egyptian gold was gone by the time of > > Cleopatra. And, then, one has to think of the Islamic invasions and > > Crusader invasions that took place after that. Plenty of time to > > spoil. > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
