I agree it would affect me in so many ways I havent a clue in all the
ways it would, I suppose I would justify it as eradicating a cancer
from the connectedness of humanity, I know I would be changing the
cause and effect of letting life play out with out taking it into my
own hands and changing the fabric of life, I Believe there are so many
layers of life and how it affects everyone, even the person who does
nothing but lays around watching television.

On Jan 20, 12:48 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
> "But would I seek out
> and kill someone who raped and murdered my child rather than seek
> conventional justice, yes, yes I would."-  restless
>
> Indeed! However this seems to go against the interconnectedness of all
> things or all people. Holding to the belief that this
> interconnectedness is so, would not killing another be, in effect,
> killing part of one's self?
>
> On Jan 20, 2:58 pm, restless <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >  Man is corruptible, one may start out killing for the benefit of all
> > but what generally happens is we become judge and jury. The real
> > question is who am I that I can decide what is good for society or for
> > the benefit of all. Everything happens for a reason is my belief even
> > tho we may not in a million years understand why things happen as they
> > do. I believe we are all interconnected and that we all have a destiny
> > we must fulfill even a mundane life has purpose. But would I seek out
> > and kill someone who raped and murdered my child rather than seek
> > conventional justice, yes, yes I would.
>
> > On Jan 20, 5:56 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > You know, there was a way to deal with feeble or not right births-
> > > they would just put the babies aside to slowly die. Plus all those
> > > myths about babies left in the mountains or with shepherds to later
> > > return and claim their kingdoms, etc. It is such a vulnerable time for
> > > mother and child- to make it through seems a miracle when there is no
> > > support. Amen.
>
> > > On Jan 19, 11:34 am, "[email protected]"
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Hey Rigsy
>
> > > > I'll try to answer all of those questions.
>
> > > > Abortion, fine I'm pro choice a fetues has no capability to make
> > > > choices.
>
> > > > War of any kind bar defense from invasion I totaly abhour.
>
> > > > Droping bombs or snding in drones does not relieve responsibility.
>
> > > > Torture does not sit to well with me, but that is a seperate moral
> > > > issue then death and choice.
>
> > > > Vigilanty justice may be fine as long as such justice does not include
> > > > killing.
>
> > > > Animals, well we eat them and indeed they eat each other, so that is
> > > > fine.
>
> > > > Toxic weapons comes under warcraft and so in line with the song I find
> > > > it 'stupid'.
>
> > > > On Jan 19, 1:07 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Then how to you feel about abortion or the military/politicians or
> > > > > suicide bombers killing others including the innocent? Does dropping
> > > > > bombs from an airplane or sending in drones via satellite relieve
> > > > > responsibilty? There are moral arguments and laws regarding a "just
> > > > > war" and self-defense. (St. Augustine, I believe.) What about torture
> > > > > or vigilante justice? What about animals, for that matter? Maybe it is
> > > > > covered in miltary classes- kill/ratios. What about the long term
> > > > > effects of toxic weapons (products) upon people, land and water?
> > > > > Evidently history has usurped God's control of life and death.
>
> > > > > On Jan 19, 5:31 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Ohhh no no no no not at all.
>
> > > > > > Let us look at ome words and I realise tha English is not wizards
> > > > > > first language so perhaps this may help him out.
>
> > > > > > Murder can be defined as the unlawfull killing of a human being by
> > > > > > other human beings.
>
> > > > > > So state sacntioned 'murder' must be unlawfull.
>
> > > > > > However that said let us carry on with the intent of Wizards post.
>
> > > > > > There are no people who deserve to die to my mind.
>
> > > > > > I am of course religous,but I do not belive that only God has teh
> > > > > > right to kill.  Darwin shows us that death is part of the strugle to
> > > > > > live.  No I belive that by killing a man you take all chocie from 
> > > > > > him,
> > > > > > this is a big moral no no in my book.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 19, 3:46 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I think the State alone should have the right to murder people , 
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > prosecutes whom it thinks is a menace to society and if the judge
> > > > > > > thinks that it would be better in the interests of justice that he
> > > > > > > should be " murdered " he passes the death sentence on him. 
> > > > > > > Terrorists
> > > > > > > also murder people and individuals also murder their enemies etc. 
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > murder for profit , but I think that is all wrong and cannot be
> > > > > > > justified.
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:56 PM, wizard_47_cpp 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Recently i was thinking about murder. I was wondering if this,
> > > > > > > > sometimes, could be the best solution to many important 
> > > > > > > > problems (i
> > > > > > > > obvious exclude personal and economical ones). There are some 
> > > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > who we think should die, because they damage the society, the 
> > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > and other people. So, do we have the right to kill this 
> > > > > > > > individuals?
> > > > > > > > I'm some kind of atheist (exaclty i don't believe in an 
> > > > > > > > antropomorphic
> > > > > > > > god, endowed with an human-like will), so i don't think, like
> > > > > > > > somebody, only god has the right to kill humans.
> > > > > > > > My thought is we have this right, but it needs valid 
> > > > > > > > motivations.
> > > > > > > > But now the questions are: does valid motivations really exist? 
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > human understand wich are them?
> > > > > > > > The topic can become wider with the last one, it implicates the
> > > > > > > > understanding of an absolute truth.
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