I believe in capital punishment and there is greater proof of guilt/
innocence today. We have glorified war and sympatized with murderers
in modern times. A steady diet of violence in the media incites more
violence, imho. Do you think civilians caught in a war zone are
forgiving?

On Jan 24, 3:14 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ash why do that when you can know that when you can let the wheels of
> justice takes its course and they will be place among a group of people why
> do not admire child killer and pedophiles. those people have their own
> morality to live by ,, right or wrong. from what I have heard it is not
> pleasant  something like in the star war films being slowly digested alive
> over 1000 years..
> Allan
>
> Personally I will try to do everything I can to avoid it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> >  It is far easier to summon a demon to swallow them up anyway Allan, why
> > does everyone overlook this? :)
>
> > On 1/24/2011 1:46 AM, iam deheretic wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:33 AM, restless <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The part of making the person everyones bitch is agreeable to me but
> >> from what I have seen they dont really get long sentences, the
> >> punishment doesnt fit the crime.
>
> > hmm
>
> >> I would not go after the person right
> >> away time would elapse and the death would be seen as an accident,
>
> > Don't under estimate the police. I remember one murder case  just a piece
> > of thread and a button,  before long we had had the killer.
> > Allan
>
> >> On Jan 20, 10:57 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Rape and murder a child, oh my dear Lisa Hunt them down and kill
> >> them.that
> >> > would only land you in prison, seems to me it would be much more
> >> satisfying
> >> > knowing that prisons and the people confined within tend to despise
> >> > pedophiles and cild killers,  if they are protectedby the prison they
> >> tend
> >> > to be raped and beaten with none of the benefits of being a boy toy.
> >> > your child raper would be praying for a quick and merciful death and
> >> just
> >> > who he is would travel from prison. Actually killing him would be a
> >> merciful
> >> > death.
> >> > Why go to prison? Especially if it is vengeance you want?
> >> > Allan
>
> >>  > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:58 PM, restless <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >  Man is corruptible, one may start out killing for the benefit of all
> >> > > but what generally happens is we become judge and jury. The real
> >> > > question is who am I that I can decide what is good for society or for
> >> > > the benefit of all. Everything happens for a reason is my belief even
> >> > > tho we may not in a million years understand why things happen as they
> >> > > do. I believe we are all interconnected and that we all have a destiny
> >> > > we must fulfill even a mundane life has purpose. But would I seek out
> >> > > and kill someone who raped and murdered my child rather than seek
> >> > > conventional justice, yes, yes I would.
>
> >> > > On Jan 20, 5:56 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > > You know, there was a way to deal with feeble or not right births-
> >> > > > they would just put the babies aside to slowly die. Plus all those
> >> > > > myths about babies left in the mountains or with shepherds to later
> >> > > > return and claim their kingdoms, etc. It is such a vulnerable time
> >> for
> >> > > > mother and child- to make it through seems a miracle when there is
> >> no
> >> > > > support. Amen.
>
> >> > > > On Jan 19, 11:34 am, "[email protected]"
>
> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > > > Hey Rigsy
>
> >> > > > > I'll try to answer all of those questions.
>
> >> > > > > Abortion, fine I'm pro choice a fetues has no capability to make
> >> > > > > choices.
>
> >> > > > > War of any kind bar defense from invasion I totaly abhour.
>
> >> > > > > Droping bombs or snding in drones does not relieve responsibility.
>
> >> > > > > Torture does not sit to well with me, but that is a seperate moral
> >> > > > > issue then death and choice.
>
> >> > > > > Vigilanty justice may be fine as long as such justice does not
> >> include
> >> > > > > killing.
>
> >> > > > > Animals, well we eat them and indeed they eat each other, so that
> >> is
> >> > > > > fine.
>
> >> > > > > Toxic weapons comes under warcraft and so in line with the song I
> >> find
> >> > > > > it 'stupid'.
>
> >> > > > > On Jan 19, 1:07 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > Then how to you feel about abortion or the military/politicians
> >> or
> >> > > > > > suicide bombers killing others including the innocent? Does
> >> dropping
> >> > > > > > bombs from an airplane or sending in drones via satellite
> >> relieve
> >> > > > > > responsibilty? There are moral arguments and laws regarding a
> >> "just
> >> > > > > > war" and self-defense. (St. Augustine, I believe.) What about
> >> torture
> >> > > > > > or vigilante justice? What about animals, for that matter? Maybe
> >> it
> >> > > is
> >> > > > > > covered in miltary classes- kill/ratios. What about the long
> >> term
> >> > > > > > effects of toxic weapons (products) upon people, land and water?
> >> > > > > > Evidently history has usurped God's control of life and death.
>
> >> > > > > > On Jan 19, 5:31 am, "[email protected]" <
> >> > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > Ohhh no no no no not at all.
>
> >> > > > > > > Let us look at ome words and I realise tha English is not
> >> wizards
> >> > > > > > > first language so perhaps this may help him out.
>
> >> > > > > > > Murder can be defined as the unlawfull killing of a human
> >> being by
> >> > > > > > > other human beings.
>
> >> > > > > > > So state sacntioned 'murder' must be unlawfull.
>
> >> > > > > > > However that said let us carry on with the intent of Wizards
> >> post.
>
> >> > > > > > > There are no people who deserve to die to my mind.
>
> >> > > > > > > I am of course religous,but I do not belive that only God has
> >> teh
> >> > > > > > > right to kill.  Darwin shows us that death is part of the
> >> strugle
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > > > live.  No I belive that by killing a man you take all chocie
> >> from
> >> > > him,
> >> > > > > > > this is a big moral no no in my book.
>
> >> > > > > > > On Jan 19, 3:46 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > > I think the State alone should have the right to murder
> >> people ,
> >> > > it
> >> > > > > > > > prosecutes whom it thinks is a menace to society and if the
> >> judge
> >> > > > > > > > thinks that it would be better in the interests of justice
> >> that
> >> > > he
> >> > > > > > > > should be " murdered " he passes the death sentence on him.
> >> > > Terrorists
> >> > > > > > > > also murder people and individuals also murder their enemies
> >> etc.
> >> > > or
> >> > > > > > > > murder for profit , but I think that is all wrong and cannot
> >> be
> >> > > > > > > > justified.
>
> >> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:56 PM, wizard_47_cpp <
> >> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > Recently i was thinking about murder. I was wondering if
> >> this,
> >> > > > > > > > > sometimes, could be the best solution to many important
> >> > > problems (i
> >> > > > > > > > > obvious exclude personal and economical ones). There are
> >> some
> >> > > people
> >> > > > > > > > > who we think should die, because they damage the society,
> >> the
> >> > > world
> >> > > > > > > > > and other people. So, do we have the right to kill this
> >> > > individuals?
> >> > > > > > > > > I'm some kind of atheist (exaclty i don't believe in an
> >> > > antropomorphic
> >> > > > > > > > > god, endowed with an human-like will), so i don't think,
> >> like
> >> > > > > > > > > somebody, only god has the right to kill humans.
> >> > > > > > > > > My thought is we have this right, but it needs valid
> >> > > motivations.
> >> > > > > > > > > But now the questions are: does valid motivations really
> >> exist?
> >> > > can
> >> > > > > > > > > human understand wich are them?
> >> > > > > > > > > The topic can become wider with the last one, it
> >> implicates the
> >> > > > > > > > > understanding of an absolute truth.
>
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> >> > I_D Allan
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