Killing a dictator might be deemed needed and happen ,, it does not justify murder. and it would in my view would be spiritually incorrect, Allan
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > Under compulsion of necessity it might become more likely that a dictator > would be killed, like a malignant tooth to be pulled. To follow that > analogy, and I don't promote capital punishment for all leadership failures > (perhaps some, to clean things up) you have the right to pull any of your > teeth at any time if you like but it wouldn't serve you to pull any without > good reason, and the longer you take to decide the worse the pain is. So > maybe pulling the tooth early would be like ousting the schmuck and > increasing to the necessity of forced removal. It should be understood that > premature force (in many areas) would promote a degradation of society so > general provisions should be in place to identify extremists as degenerate, > but also that incumbents will position themselves as the only sanctioned > theives or murderers. > > I tend to like the idea of merit and what serves the evolutionary fitness > of culture, society, species. There are many angles to consider, too many in > my opinion to consider absolute or irrevocable rights. I ran across > something called 'quorum sensing' so that will occupy my thoughts until > sleep, devising clear, reliable, beneficial communication sounds like a > pipe-dream but the bees can do it.. > > > On 1/19/2011 10:27 AM, pattern23 wrote: > >> My intention was not to include the State, i don't want to talk about >> death penalty >> I was talking in a more theorical way, considering the right that >> every individual has. Do not include laws too, this is a human, more >> important, question. >> For istance, can the killing of a dictator by a terrorist be >> justified? Can be this considered absolutely fair? After all, it's a >> human life, and the killer decided its destiny. Does he have this >> right? >> >> If this right exists, wich are its limitations? >> >> On 19 Gen, 12:31, "[email protected]"<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Ohhh no no no no not at all. >>> >>> Let us look at ome words and I realise tha English is not wizards >>> first language so perhaps this may help him out. >>> >>> Murder can be defined as the unlawfull killing of a human being by >>> other human beings. >>> >>> So state sacntioned 'murder' must be unlawfull. >>> >>> However that said let us carry on with the intent of Wizards post. >>> >>> There are no people who deserve to die to my mind. >>> >>> I am of course religous,but I do not belive that only God has teh >>> right to kill. Darwin shows us that death is part of the strugle to >>> live. No I belive that by killing a man you take all chocie from him, >>> this is a big moral no no in my book. >>> >>> On Jan 19, 3:46 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I think the State alone should have the right to murder people , it >>>> prosecutes whom it thinks is a menace to society and if the judge >>>> thinks that it would be better in the interests of justice that he >>>> should be " murdered " he passes the death sentence on him. Terrorists >>>> also murder people and individuals also murder their enemies etc. or >>>> murder for profit , but I think that is all wrong and cannot be >>>> justified. >>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:56 PM, wizard_47_cpp<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Recently i was thinking about murder. I was wondering if this, >>>>> sometimes, could be the best solution to many important problems (i >>>>> obvious exclude personal and economical ones). There are some people >>>>> who we think should die, because they damage the society, the world >>>>> and other people. So, do we have the right to kill this individuals? >>>>> I'm some kind of atheist (exaclty i don't believe in an antropomorphic >>>>> god, endowed with an human-like will), so i don't think, like >>>>> somebody, only god has the right to kill humans. >>>>> My thought is we have this right, but it needs valid motivations. >>>>> But now the questions are: does valid motivations really exist? can >>>>> human understand wich are them? >>>>> The topic can become wider with the last one, it implicates the >>>>> understanding of an absolute truth. >>>>> Sorry for my english- Hide quoted text - >>>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> >>> > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
