I agree with you that there is only one Soul which may also be termed as God.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Æzen <[email protected]> wrote: > This is my first post here, so I thought that this post I shared in > another group would actually be a good introduction here =] > > *** > > "There are 2 ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a > miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." > - Einstein > > In science, nature - or at least energy - is taken to be something > inert and void of consciousness. Only from some quirk in the evolution > of chemistry arising in abiogenises, that engenders evolution of life > is consciousness derived in ever more intricate and developed ways of > expression. > > However, on the quantum level, it is the interaction of basic energies > that give rise to the fundamental forces - the laws of natural > behaviour (also referred to as the fundamental interactions). These > most basic interactions of energy give rise to all the variety of > chemical, biological relationships. That again go on to evolve ever > further, to the point that the interaction of individuals gives rise > to society, and then nations and global poltics and economics. Yet no > matter the level of relationship or interaction we want to discuss, > all relationships are built out of the same fundamental relationships > between energies. > > To suggest that consciousness may exist in energy, yet just like a bit > in a computer, a lone quanta of energy doesn't do very much. But build > up the bits and a computer can do amazing things - but all from the > same fundamentals of a simple 'On & Off'. Similarly, energy could > simply be consciousness in an undeveloped 'raw' form. > > "God sleeps in the rock, dreams in the plant, stirs in the animal, and > awakens in man." > - Ibn al 'Arabi > > I am not referring to the God of any scripture. But Einsteins > 'pantheistic' leniency towards seeing nature as divine. > > And I agree. I do not believe that a rock is conscious in the same > sense as we ordinarly define consciousness... but that the very same > interactions that have coellesced in a particular way to form a rock > are the same that have have formed different relationships that have > formed our biology. > > I'm basically dancing around the point that we are very much divine > entities, that our lives are spiritual experiences - however, that > doesn't entail the need for an individual soul. Merely that there is > one eternal universal soul that we are apart of. > > You can intepret this in a religious context... but I don't see the > need. If that is as it is, then that is simply it. And as much, > science is the best tool we have to explore nature. In that sense, > science, in my opinion, must realise that it IS very much a guide on > morality & ethics, because it explains to us who we are and why we are > as best it can. > > That rational argument must be the only true way to derive our ethics > because it opens things up to be tested and see if they hold true. > What consquences do our actions have? And how can we improve them, and > improve ourselves? > > I am very much into Buddhist and Daoist philosophies. Though, I > consider myself a 'Bukist' (my nickname amongst friends is Buk =] )... > I believe that progress of an individual can only be made when they > believe that they can live up to the highest moral ideals - even if we > don't know what they are, to at least believe we can try and discover > them > > I am neither a pessimist nor an optimist, yet a little of both. > Buddhism has taught me the value of balance between all extremes. The > middle path. All things in moderation - even moderation in moderation! > > It is healthy to explore the variety of life, yet even better is to > come to understand the cycles of our own habits as individuals, and > our general habits as humans. I believe that by being aware of our > potential to cause harm form our animalistic nature, to our ability to > be influenced under social pressures allows us to begin to free > ourselves from them - to understand our nature and help express it in > productive and creative ways. To choose the things that infuences us. > > Before I finish. I will say that I realise Buddhism as a religion is > full of its own pitfalls of a religion. That it's socio-economic > tradition is unsustainable and detrimental to a society. Yet, the core > philosophy - that life is stressful, life is suffering brought about > by our ignorance and attachments to certain things - is a beautiful, > apt and in my experience, a true teaching of our human condition. > Learning to be apart of life, but letting go of wanting more from each > moment, and simply making the most of what is right in front of you. > - That doesn't deny responsibility to make plans. It tries to free us > from the stress of worry to allows us to then do our best in any > particular moment, from having learned about the cycles, habbits and > patterns of ourselves and nature - our greater nature. > > I will not deny that I wished more people understood Buddhism & Daoism > in the way I have experienced those philosophies. But that's the crux > for anyone. That we all think we're right. It's a contradtion to > believe you're wrong!! Even if you think you are wrong now about > something, an idea, an action - you are sitll thinking that you are > right, in that moment, about being wrong, in another moment! > > Simply put, I understand that I would like to influence people to look > into these philosophies. I have enjoyed them immensley and feel that > they have truly taught me alot about how to meditate and observe > myself, and thereby seeing so much of me in the others I see around > me. > > *********** > > If I could tear you from your dream > I’d wake you, and then maybe you’d see > Building our statues for our pride with pain > So that we may shade away the light of truth > - Away the love… silhouette of ourselves > Playing in our shadows… growing pale and ill > - I hide from you, as you hide from me > Concealing our view of our reality > > Chorus: > I’m watchin you… watching you… > Watching you… watching me… > Watching you… watching you… > Paranoid your watching me… > I’m watchin you… watching you… > Watching you… watching me… > … Watching this… > - My borderline mentality > - Watching myself falling through my depravity > > Verse: > I don’t understand what I am > I know we can’t escape these things we are… > The irony… is this individuality? > Or are we caught behind a masquerade of lies? > - Away the love… silhouette of ourselves > Dancing in our shadows… growing stale and old > - I colour you, as you colour me > Drawing our minds through uncertainty" > > ************** > > The above are lyrics of my own from a song called 'Shade'. I hope you > don't mind their appreance here =] I felt there some level of > relevance to the sentiment I'm trying to express. > > I would appreciate any response, any counter points, or even what you > may agree upon. I love discussion, and I love refining, undermining > and discovering new ideas or perspectives. > > Thankyou > - Æzen
