There are also "prayers" of gratitude I should have included with the
humor and woes- but to whom is the question- to my problem solving or
living in an age of science?

I agree with Henry Adams that the dynamo has won out over the Virgin-
a very perceptive essay of the 19th Century and those with a greater
familiarity in the various fields of science could argue more
successfully than I am prepared to do, despite wishing I could! :-)

Luck and fortune- reason and scientific exploration and discoveries-
faith and worship--- they are all attempts to control our enviornment
and response in varying degrees along with the inherent failures
arising from human nature.

On Feb 9, 7:57 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> History, being a concept in and of itself would of course have nothing
> directly to do with God let alone “a unifying force”.
> On the other hand, rather than being “all myth”, humans can innately
> know God. This is in no way contradictory with the innate drive to
> survive.
>
> Now, when it comes to ‘luck’ and ‘fortune’…well…now one IS in the
> realm of mythology as earlier presented…at least in the realm of
> confusion, no?
>
> Rigsy, I do appreciate your agnostic humor!!! 
> :Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHJmCQohYVk&feature=related
>
> On Feb 9, 4:57 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > History/reality betrays this concept of God as a unifying force even
> > interested in the affairs/plight of humanity and creation. It's all
> > myth. Our behavior adjusts to self-interest and survival very quickly
> > after birth. I do pray, but to what I do not know- it could be I pray
> > to Luck or Fortune- yet I do expect some form of consciousness to
> > appreciate my humor and woes- someone just turned off the applause
> > machine! :-)
>
> > On Feb 9, 3:35 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Whichever way you look at it the fact is that this world and
> > > everything in it is an illusion because everything is predetermined by
> > > God and nothing is permanent and merges with God and loses all
> > > individual identity. That freedom to act which moves along a
> > > predetermined course is not actually a freedom but an illusion as
> > > such. Still the fact remains that as far as we are concerned we are
> > > free and accountable to ourselves and others for whatever we do as we
> > > are the agents. But it is a cool thought that knowing our bondage we
> > > shouldn't be proud of our achievements and  depressed about our
> > > failure , rather we should act with a coolness of purpose and not look
> > > down upon our less fortunate brethren. Ever acting to the best of our
> > > abilities in a spirit of Yoga we should surrender all our actions to
> > > God.
>
> > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:56 AM, ornamentalmind
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > So, the act of concluding that one isn’t “doing” anything and it is
> > > > all God’s “doing” is an illusion?
>
> > > > On Feb 8, 8:23 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> God is not someone sitting on a cloud and watching Rigsy reading
> > > >> Tolstoy , Allan talking about being part of God , RP talking about
> > > >> Non-Duality again and again in different words , He is the Inner Force
> > > >> which is making it all happen. And if we feel that we are doing
> > > >> whatever we do , that's the illusion.- Hide quoted text -
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