My nature consists of the forces within me which bind my freedom of will. In that context it can be said that your nature is separate from you.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:32 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > And you and your nature is seperate? > > > > On Feb 27, 3:20 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> Whether you adapt or you revolt , in either case it is not you but >> your nature which makes the choice. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Adaption may be phoney/false in order to survive/prosper/get along. >> > Afterall, a child is controlled in beliefs and behaviors by his >> > parents. The child cannot even change its name unless it goes to >> > court- even marriage only changes the last name. (I was named to match >> > family monograms on linens, silver and as a bone tossed to my father's >> > ego and my mother's determination to establish a stake in a failing >> > marriage.) The brain is not mature until the mid-twenties. >> >> > We should discuss motive and its role in making choices. Often motive >> > is not apparent until you are beyond the choice or older and in the >> > ruminating stage. >> >> > Women developed manipulation to an art form. Power is another >> > important element in choice. >> >> > It is human to try various adaptions on for size. I thought of a line >> > the other day: I tried on sin but found it unbecoming. >> >> > Some conditions are beyond human choice and adaption- violent acts of >> > Nature, war zones, political and social clamps, etc. >> >> > If the more capable individual has adapted to baser systems, where's >> > the courage or intelligence? >> >> > On Feb 26, 11:48 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It is in the nature of an organism to adapt to his environment , >> >> whether it is conscious or unconscious. The more capable an organism >> >> the better its coping behaviour and adaptability , that which you >> >> cannot change you adapt to. >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:00 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > So is morality/religion a means/tool of adaptation? >> >> >> > On Feb 26, 9:17 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> It depends upon man's nature and the opportunities in his environment >> >> >> that result in successive environments. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:36 AM, kenny <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > "and how shall man hope to see himself as nature made him, across all >> >> >> > the changes which the succession of place and time must have produced >> >> >> > in his original composition". rousseau >> >> >> >> > On Feb 25, 9:32 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> We have choice but it is limited by our motivational forces. We go >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> a restaurant and order food by choice but according to our taste >> >> >> >> buds >> >> >> >> or health habits. Our freedom is bound by many factors , some of >> >> >> >> which >> >> >> >> we are not even aware of. The choice is ours and the responsibility >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> ours but the motivating force behind the curtain is determined by >> >> >> >> our >> >> >> >> nature. On being confronted by a bully the meek among us act with >> >> >> >> timidity but the bold among us act with aggression. Our nature is >> >> >> >> determined to a large extent by factors beyond our control , we are >> >> >> >> not responsible for our genes or the environment in which we were >> >> >> >> born >> >> >> >> and yet they are responsible for our nature. The desire to change >> >> >> >> ourselves , to improve ourselves comes from within us and is innate >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> us , what we see as our freedom has causative factors of which we >> >> >> >> are >> >> >> >> not aware. >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:21 PM, pol.science kid >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I was thinking...it is our ability to make a choice that makes us >> >> >> >> > moral beings....but is it necessary that animals dont make a >> >> >> >> > choice...and do we really make an active choice....and i would >> >> >> >> > like >> >> >> >> > someone to talk about responsibility in the same sense...- Hide >> >> >> >> > quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
