Pat, do me a very big favour, please, and don't forget to hear what Binah is
saying also. There have been so many bad examples of imposed post-colonial
mindsets at work here, that your detachment from the profane comes in as a
bliss. Mind the Native American spirituality. Thanks.

Welcome Binah! :) I'll try my best to protect you from the sharks here. ;)

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 10, 9:00 pm, Binah Hochma <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thank you all for the many welcomes.  I have been gone for the week and
> see
> > I have a lot of reading to do.
> > Pat, I will have many Q's for you.  I have only been looking at Kabbalah
> for
> > three or four years now. It is a many faceted philosophy and I have found
> so
> > many different opinions, it is difficult to understand some of the
> > teachings.  But I find that this is true for everything.
> >
> > Most of my friends would consider me a Christian (as long as I keep all
> > those disputable matters between me and G-d) but am no longer involved in
> > what would be considered "traditional church".  I have study some eastern
> > spirituality and Kabbalah, but mostly Native American spirituality.
> > I am looking forward to learning from all of you.  The first thing I
> really
> > need to know is the most efficient way to use this site.  I have all your
> > post coming up in my email, which is fine.  I hit "reply to all"  at the
> > bottom of the last post, which was Pat's.  Will it show up at the bottom
> of
> > the list?  I guess I will see after I hit send.  Maybe it would be easier
> to
> > just go to the group site instead of using my email???
> > Binah
> >
>
> It DID show up at the bottom of the list, but I suspect that was
> because you replied to me, and my response was, prior to yours, at the
> bottom.  But, yours is also indented under mine to show that it was in
> direct response.  I come in through 'Google Groups' and just Google's
> format for displaying the messages.  It's really a matter of personal
> taste ultimately.
>
> As far as any questions go, fire away; I'll do my best.
>
> I noticed you left the 'o' out of God (unusual for a Christian), which
> is a Jewish tradition--note that I'm only noting it, not criticising
> it.  I'll do it if I know I'm conversing with Jews out of respect but,
> for the most part, I write the word with all the letters.  There's
> nothing in the Torah forbidding the use of ANY English term for the
> Supreme Being anyway (or, in fact, any reference to English at
> all...if there were, you'd KNOW it was an anachronism), so the usage
> of the word, in full, does NOT break any of the 613 comandments in the
> Torah anyway.  It's purely done, as you know, out of respect FOR the
> Supreme Being and a sincere effort to try to not use the name in
> vain.
>
> Just as an example of a known anachronism in the Torah, there's the
> comment in Genesis that says that Abraham was from "Ur, of the
> Chaldees".  Abraham lived, according to the text of Genesis, in the
> early part of the second millenium BCE (i.e., 2999 BCE through
> 2500BCE), yet the Chaldeans weren't in control of 'Ur' until the sixth
> century BCE--a difference of, at least, 1900 years.  It becomes
> obvious from that point that Genesis was 'redacted' DURING or AFTER
> the Chaldeans were in Ur.  In other words, the words 'of the Chaldees'
> could NOT have been an original part of of the 'revealed Torah' as the
> term is a huge anachronism.
>
> If you've been looking at Kabbalah for 3-4 years, you've probably
> already discovered that the Tree of Life is a great methodolgy for
> categorising information.  If I'm correct, it's also a schematic for
> how the universe's various dimensions relate to one another.  Each
> sephira is a dimension and the paths are the ways in which those
> dimensions communicate.
>
> Anyway, I'm all ears when it comes to your questions.  I look forward
> to hearing them!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Pat <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 5:40 pm, Binah Hochma <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I just thought I would say hi.  I joined the group a couple of day
> ago
> > > and
> > > > am still reading over the latest post. Some interesting thoughts on
> the
> > > > existence of God and the soul.
> > > > I am new to the whole internet community thing and don't spend a lot
> of
> > > time
> > > > on the computer so bare with me.
> > > > To the Moderators, thanks for creating a safe place to exchange
> thoughts
> > > and
> > > > ideas and to encourage each other to grow spiritually.
> > > > Binah
> >
> > > Great Name..Binah Hochma!!  I'll translate it for the others...it's
> > > Hebrew for 'Understanding Wisdom'.  Obviously, you have a background
> > > in either Judaism, Hebrew itself or, most likely, the Kabbalah, as the
> > > two words are Sephiroth on the Tree of Life.  Welcome aboard.  I've
> > > been studying Kabbalah for around 35 years, now; thus your name came
> > > screaming out at me.  Anyway, welcome aboard!!- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

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