On Mar 14, 4:05 pm, Binah Hochma <[email protected]> wrote: > I think you guys are going to be a lot of fun [?] > > Pat, I omit the "o" out of respect not so much to or for God, Creator, The > Ultimate Reality, or what ever name we try to come up with in our limited > vocabulary, but more to show respect to others. The Hebrew language does > not use vowels. Vowel points were added much later. So I'm not sure that > the Jews omit vowels out of respect for G-d or is it just a reflection of > the written language?
The reason is to not take the Name in vain. I taught myself both Hebrew and Greek so that I COULD read the original scriptures without relying on translators...and/or their agenda. I'm now teaching myself Arabic, so that I can do the same with the Qur'an. >YHWH v. YaHWaH? (Which is not pronounced out of > respect) > I've always hoped it was pronounced as 'Yahoo' purely because I think it would be hilarious that an Internet search engine has forced us all to take the Name in vain. ;-) > I do have a Q but I will start a new topic. > I need to refer back to the Hebrew. I'll look it up when I get home tonight!! > Try not to shed to much blood with all those weapons. > Binah > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 6:19 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > rigsy, see: > > >http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=shuriken&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&;... > > > On Mar 12, 6:36 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Off-topic here but do you know the name of an Asian-I think Ninja- > > > hurling weapon shaped like a small triangle? I wanted to use it as a > > > symbol of sarcasm in something I am writing. Thanks. > > > > On Mar 12, 1:57 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Oh yeah Gabby could I interest you in a Damascus blade Japanese sword?? > > > > If so which length would you be desiring? > > > > > Oh yeah they are hand forged.. (",) > > > > Allan > > > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Pat, do me a very big favour, please, and don't forget to hear what > > Binah > > > > > is saying also. There have been so many bad examples of imposed > > > > > post-colonial mindsets at work here, that your detachment from the > > profane > > > > > comes in as a bliss. Mind the Native American spirituality. Thanks. > > > > > > Welcome Binah! :) I'll try my best to protect you from the sharks > > here. ;) > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Pat <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > >> On Mar 10, 9:00 pm, Binah Hochma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Thank you all for the many welcomes. I have been gone for the > > week and > > > > >> see > > > > >> > I have a lot of reading to do. > > > > >> > Pat, I will have many Q's for you. I have only been looking at > > Kabbalah > > > > >> for > > > > >> > three or four years now. It is a many faceted philosophy and I > > have > > > > >> found so > > > > >> > many different opinions, it is difficult to understand some of the > > > > >> > teachings. But I find that this is true for everything. > > > > > >> > Most of my friends would consider me a Christian (as long as I > > keep all > > > > >> > those disputable matters between me and G-d) but am no longer > > involved > > > > >> in > > > > >> > what would be considered "traditional church". I have study some > > > > >> eastern > > > > >> > spirituality and Kabbalah, but mostly Native American > > spirituality. > > > > >> > I am looking forward to learning from all of you. The first thing > > I > > > > >> really > > > > >> > need to know is the most efficient way to use this site. I have > > all > > > > >> your > > > > >> > post coming up in my email, which is fine. I hit "reply to all" > > at the > > > > >> > bottom of the last post, which was Pat's. Will it show up at the > > bottom > > > > >> of > > > > >> > the list? I guess I will see after I hit send. Maybe it would be > > > > >> easier to > > > > >> > just go to the group site instead of using my email??? > > > > >> > Binah > > > > > >> It DID show up at the bottom of the list, but I suspect that was > > > > >> because you replied to me, and my response was, prior to yours, at > > the > > > > >> bottom. But, yours is also indented under mine to show that it was > > in > > > > >> direct response. I come in through 'Google Groups' and just > > Google's > > > > >> format for displaying the messages. It's really a matter of > > personal > > > > >> taste ultimately. > > > > > >> As far as any questions go, fire away; I'll do my best. > > > > > >> I noticed you left the 'o' out of God (unusual for a Christian), > > which > > > > >> is a Jewish tradition--note that I'm only noting it, not criticising > > > > >> it. I'll do it if I know I'm conversing with Jews out of respect > > but, > > > > >> for the most part, I write the word with all the letters. There's > > > > >> nothing in the Torah forbidding the use of ANY English term for the > > > > >> Supreme Being anyway (or, in fact, any reference to English at > > > > >> all...if there were, you'd KNOW it was an anachronism), so the usage > > > > >> of the word, in full, does NOT break any of the 613 comandments in > > the > > > > >> Torah anyway. It's purely done, as you know, out of respect FOR the > > > > >> Supreme Being and a sincere effort to try to not use the name in > > > > >> vain. > > > > > >> Just as an example of a known anachronism in the Torah, there's the > > > > >> comment in Genesis that says that Abraham was from "Ur, of the > > > > >> Chaldees". Abraham lived, according to the text of Genesis, in the > > > > >> early part of the second millenium BCE (i.e., 2999 BCE through > > > > >> 2500BCE), yet the Chaldeans weren't in control of 'Ur' until the > > sixth > > > > >> century BCE--a difference of, at least, 1900 years. It becomes > > > > >> obvious from that point that Genesis was 'redacted' DURING or AFTER > > > > >> the Chaldeans were in Ur. In other words, the words 'of the > > Chaldees' > > > > >> could NOT have been an original part of of the 'revealed Torah' as > > the > > > > >> term is a huge anachronism. > > > > > >> If you've been looking at Kabbalah for 3-4 years, you've probably > > > > >> already discovered that the Tree of Life is a great methodolgy for > > > > >> categorising information. If I'm correct, it's also a schematic for > > > > >> how the universe's various dimensions relate to one another. Each > > > > >> sephira is a dimension and the paths are the ways in which those > > > > >> dimensions communicate. > > > > > >> Anyway, I'm all ears when it comes to your questions. I look > > forward > > > > >> to hearing them!! > > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > > >> Pat > > > > > >> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Pat < > > [email protected]> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > On Mar 2, 5:40 pm, Binah Hochma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > I just thought I would say hi. I joined the group a couple of > > day > > > > >> ago > > > > >> > > and > > > > >> > > > am still reading over the latest post. Some interesting > > thoughts on > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > existence of God and the soul. > > > > >> > > > I am new to the whole internet community thing and don't spend > > a lot > > > > >> of > > > > >> > > time > > > > >> > > > on the computer so bare with me. > > > > >> > > > To the Moderators, thanks for creating a safe place to > > exchange > > > > >> thoughts > > > > >> > > and > > > > >> > > > ideas and to encourage each other to grow spiritually. > > > > >> > > > Binah > > > > > >> > > Great Name..Binah Hochma!! I'll translate it for the > > others...it's > > > > >> > > Hebrew for 'Understanding Wisdom'. Obviously, you have a > > background > > > > >> > > in either Judaism, Hebrew itself or, most likely, the Kabbalah, > > as the > > > > >> > > two words are Sephiroth on the Tree of Life. Welcome aboard. > > I've > > > > >> > > been studying Kabbalah for around 35 years, now; thus your name > > came > > > > >> > > screaming out at me. 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