I personally think Jesus was son of Mary,, and not God.. when you take the time to think about it with him being a man ,, think of the implications of what he actually did. There was a special connection and I think Buddha had an connection also. Personally I think every generation has it teachers and false teacher , Prophets and false prophets. The problem is people just fail to listen and think, and then want to follow the promotion , promotion promotion type of people. And there is only one God..
25 that is a great age to be at... You can have a long life time ahead exploring your beliefs and the beliefs of others (Don't let anyone sell you a bill of good.) you might try reading Johnathan Livingston Seagull; Illusions etc... by Bach great stories,, and the works of Carlos Castaneda but I think the first one was a grad student doing his post graduate thesis (out chasing his drugs and ran into a real medicine man) after the first book they start to get more and more interesting. Well worth reading. If you read them have fun and enjoy your life. Allan On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:41 AM, the taoist shaman <[email protected]>wrote: > > > iam deheretic wrote: > > I knew exactly what you meant Gabby, and the skiing comment was a attempt > to > > inject humor and I don't ski either, neither before or after my metal > knees. > > > > You and I both know moral obligations vary from person to person incident > to > > incident and are all situationally based > > > > Because I do not know Bryan, I would be only guessing to say that he is > > fairly young, and from the sounds of > > it subjected to fundamentalist christianity and is in the process of > > rejecting it. Which I can not fault him for. > > > > Could it possible be a simple side step to allow and see how someone > > responds, or am supposed to come out with some minor tidbit of fact like > the > > incident of Paul being healed by God from a poisonous snake bite > > on Malta could never have occurred because there are no poisonous snakes > on > > Malta. > > > > Now your turn Gabby and No Waffling > > > > do we as humans have moral obligations ( beyond the obvious , dont > > murder , steal , lie ect. ) > > > > if so , what are these obligations ? > > Allan > > > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:57 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I don't ski either, Allan. What I meant by "waffle" is: "to talk > > > foolishly or without purpose; idle away time talking." Backed up by a > > > dictionary reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/waffle > > > > > > And what's your excuse for trying to find a way to show that I don't > > > know what I am saying? Instead of checking the dictionary yourself? > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:29 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > No Gabby we do have moral obligations and are expected to meet them > > > within > > > > our abilities with out excuses. > > > > Allan > > > > but waffling isn't that what you do zipping down a ski slope?.. I > would > > > not > > > > know I don't ski.. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> What you do is waffle, Allan. Do you feel that this is the best way > to > > > >> avoid any obligations? > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 7:56 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected] > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > We all live in a world together, what is harm for one person, may > not > > > be > > > >> > for > > > >> > another, Everyone needs to be aware of the effect we are having on > > > >> > our environment and those around us. To often it is simple ignored > or > > > >> > excuse > > > >> > made. > > > >> > Allan > > > >> > > > > >> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:44 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Careful, Allan. A moral obligation would be to do something > rathen > > > than > > > >> >> to > > > >> >> not do anything. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:41 AM, iam deheretic < > [email protected]> > > > >> >> wrote: > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> "Do no Harm." > > > >> >>> Allan > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:51 AM, the taoist shaman > > > >> >>> <[email protected]> > > > >> >>> wrote: > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> do we as humans have moral obligations ( beyond the obvious , > dont > > > >> >>>> murder , steal , lie ect. ) > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> if so , what are these obligations ? > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> -- > > > >> >>> ( > > > >> >>> ) > > > >> >>> I_D Allan > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > >> >>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > >> >>> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > ( > > > >> > ) > > > >> > I_D Allan > > > >> > > > > >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > we as humans have free will and the power of creation --- god like > atributes---- being given these atibutes---- arnt we obligated to use > them to take bad things and turn them into good > > > > yes allan i was rased christian , but family doesnt go to church and > all that, wether jesus was god , son of god , messanger of god , all > of thee above ? i think at the least messanger , .... yes i belive > jesus was the son of god and holds power in heaven , but was buddha , > quezelcoat, ect. different forms of the same deity / spirit , there is > only 1 god , who speeksto all people im 25 -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
