iam deheretic wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:16 PM, the taoist shaman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
> Oh Boy here goes
>
> > obviously the bible was writen by the jews and not god and some
> > rhetoric used ( good story telling )
>
> Agreed
>
> > , jesus said he was the son of
> > man ( marry ) ,
>
>
> well there a problem here.
>
> > he also said he was the son of god
>
> This is what Paul wants you to believe, but there was a lot of time between
> when the Gospels were a written and when They were occurred remembering
> the Jews were great story tellers, None of the gospels were written under
> the supervision of some one who actually knew Jesus. many of the writers i
> believe were followers of Paul so they would be slanted to his version,, and
> he never knew Jesus either,, and I got the feeling Peter did not like him
> very much either.
>
>
> > , but he also said
> > we are all gods children , which rases the question what did he mean
> > by the son of god
>
>
> If God is one father that would mean that every one is a child of God
> therefore it would follow that we are all "Sons of the Living God"
> I think Jesus is just what he said he was the son of man. it is others
> that say he is the son of God. How hard is it to twist a story to fit ones
> picture. Like in the story of his baptism if you change where God is said to
> have spoken and change the word 'Son' to 'Beloved' and then read it ,, and
> the whole meaning changes.. that is just one simple word. If you change
> where ever read 'Son of God' to 'Beloved of God' you get
> an entirely different read and view point.
>
>
> > , if you look close at his words and actions , he
> > belived in peace , but did he belive in achieveing peace peacefully?
> >
>
> I hope so..
>
>
> he set his own death up ( judis was given a bad rep by hist ) as a
> > means of makeing a statment , his life that statment as well , he
> > said , i come not to bring peace but war , he was a rebel , his
> > statment was to not fear death for you will live again in the next
> > world , and he led by example , he said that he was taught by his
> > father before him , in the old testament when the jews deffeted an
> > enimy they killed evry man woman child and animal then burned the
> > city , it seems he belives in bloody revolution , the jews an example
> > of a people oppressed time and again throughout history but they
> > continue ,
>
>
> Well there I am having a hard time swallowing it as the will of God..
> personally I think the Jews are blood thirsty to this day.
> The romans crucified a lot of Jewish preachers to the cross to the point it
> was a habit..
> I am going to make a giant leap here.. yes there was a eclipse of the Sun
> that occurred right over Jerusalem during the time Jesus was around.. and
> it was attached to his death.. whether it is true or not is a totally
> different question.
>
> I have to remember that they were great story tellers during that time.
>
>
> example to the rest of us , a lot of revelution theses
> > days, hard times for alot of people but its a beautiful thing ...
> > sort of like taoism
> >
> > thought without action is a thoughtless action
> >
> > i have read carlos castanata ... . . . he was brilliant .... . . .
> > but at times..... . . .?
> >
>
> Yes it is strange,, my personal experience tells me not to discount what he
> has to say.. especially as you get to the later books
> To me the weirdest one is the 1st one
>
> >
> > any hoo... the ideas , actions , self sacrifice , and world wide
> > impact of jesus makes him a god no matter what your definition might
> > be! LOL, but on the inside.
> >
>
> Just how important the point is I am not sure,, I prefer the way I see it as
> opposed to the way the majority see it. I believe that what is important is
> how you live your life.
>
> >
> > or you might say ....... scream violent wispers of peace through
> > harmonious contention -LOL
> >
> > i dont know if youll get that
>
>
> I think you have great and interesting thoughts Bryan
> Allan
>
>
> --
> (
> )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
theres pritty goog evidence that paul chased thommas out of jerusalem
to hide just these thoughts in what we know as the dead sea scrolls -
the catalist of your current thinking i assume - i see it as fact that
this is what happened between P/T
lets step back............. jesus = son of man + son of god
we = son of man + son of god
but
jesus = first born son of
god let that rest without thought .......
are we human beings that have spiritual experience , or spiritual
beings haveing a human experience ?
jesus was born as bolth man and spiritual being , just like the rest
of us
a herrmit crab sheds a shell , another inhabits the same shell ....
possession is a big part of religion to alot of people
not trying to make any solid conclusions here , to know is to be
decived , to not know is ignorance , there are 2 sides to evry coin
( P/T ) - but still same coin - a quote of mine ---> if you see
only darkness u r blind - if you see only light u r blind - when light
and dark come together you have sight.
is the peak of a mountain its beginning or it end?....... a doubting
Thomas? LOL
