A person who believes in a living Being instead of a dead nature , and believes in virtue can be said to be having a spiritual experience.Individuals , in my opinion , are mortals and on death the conscious entity that is the self-sense becomes one with the Being which is beyond consciousness , or it may be said that the self-sense being just an illusion ceases to be on the death of an organism.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:45 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In my view , creation was not a conscious act of God , but rather the >> universe emanated from the unconscious mind of God. > > So god had some kind of nervous twitch and farted out a universe? Ok, as > realities go that sounds like as good an explanation as any other. What > leads you to that belief? > >> >> He doesn't look at >> us consciously , doesn't connect results with actions , rather >> everything is happening according to laws which exist in His >> unconscious mind. I don't think that any scripture can really lay down >> definitions of good and bad with His authority , rather thinkers among >> us can lay down rules which appear logical to them and accepted by us >> as such. I don't believe in an after-life and consider this life >> itself to be a spiritual experience. > > If this life is the spiritual experience the implication is that the spirit > is mortal. If that is the case what's the difference between a spiritual and > a non-spiritual life experience? > >> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Chuck Bowling >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM, [email protected] >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey Chuck, >> >> >> >> I guess it depends on what you belive God is. >> >> >> >> If you believe that God is the creator then everything has Gods hand >> >> in it, if you further belive that God is omipitant then God you are >> >> exactly the way that God has designed you to be. >> > >> > I believe that god/goddess/gods etc. are icons. They are concepts that >> > help >> > people cope with their own frailties and inadequacies. Whether it be to >> > blame bad things on, attribute good things to, or to provide us a path >> > to >> > continue our existence beyond the grave. >> > >> >> >> >> If you are a gardner, and you splice together two differant plants to >> >> gain a desird result, the plant does have a life of it's own, but >> >> works in the way you have designd it to. So in a real way you are the >> >> manipulator of that plants life, your hand is in all that it does, as >> >> you have designed it. >> > >> > Here I would say that the original design was altered. A much easier >> > task >> > than the original design. >> > >> > As I may have mentioned in a previous post, I readily accept the >> > possibility >> > that some entity may have created this universe. And, I think that >> > anything >> > with that kind of power would probably appear to be omniscient to us. >> > However, I also believe that it is VERY unlikely that any entity that >> > could >> > have created this reality would bare even the slightest resemblance to >> > anything we describe as a god. >> > >> > The reasoning for that seems fairly straightforward to me: >> > >> > Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame. I mean >> > come >> > on. You want me to kill a goat, sacrifice a virgin, or set fire to a wax >> > stick in your honor. REALLY??? And you're going to send me to hell for >> > eternity because I thought the neighbor's wife was a hot piece of tail? >> > Jeesh. As gods go you suck dude. >> > >> > Another thing. You would think that god would find a better way of >> > correcting bad behavior than to fry people for an eternity. Even we >> > lowly >> > humans know that setting someone on fire is not the best way to convince >> > 'em >> > to mend their ways. >> > >> > Lastly but not finally. If god created this reality then at a minimum he >> > created one and possibly infinitely more universes. In this one there >> > are an >> > estimated 300 sextillion stars. That's 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 >> > stars >> > if you're looking for precision. You would think that with all that >> > stuff >> > floating around out there that he/she/it would have better things to do >> > than >> > make sure that little johnnies prayers are answered with a brand new >> > bike on >> > his birthday. >> > >> > My guess is that any entity capable of creating all of this would see us >> > as >> > a minor infestation of germs at best. >> > >> >> On Apr 20, 5:40 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > Whatever work I do and the effort that I make , is it God doing it >> >> > > ? >> >> > > No , I do it all , but It is God who gives me the strength to do >> >> > > it. >> >> > > Without His strength even the resolve to do anything wouldn't come >> >> > > to >> >> > > my mind. >> >> > >> >> > Now when you say that God is giving you strength can you be more >> >> > specific? >> >> > Is he providing your mitochondria with more ADP or is he upping your >> >> > serotonin or dopamine levels to give you a greater feeling of reward >> >> > for >> >> > your accomplishments? >> >> > >> >> > And, if so, can you tell me exactly how he does that? I mean, is he >> >> > causing >> >> > re-uptake inhibition or is he actually producing a greater volume of >> >> > chemical messengers at the synapse? >> >> > >> >> > I guess if it's psychological strength it would have to be the >> >> > latter. >> >> > If it >> >> > were greater physical strength then you'd probably be able to lift >> >> > cars >> >> > off >> >> > the ground. >> > > >
