On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:45 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > In my view , creation was not a conscious act of God , but rather the > universe emanated from the unconscious mind of God.
So god had some kind of nervous twitch and farted out a universe? Ok, as realities go that sounds like as good an explanation as any other. What leads you to that belief? > He doesn't look at > us consciously , doesn't connect results with actions , rather > everything is happening according to laws which exist in His > unconscious mind. I don't think that any scripture can really lay down > definitions of good and bad with His authority , rather thinkers among > us can lay down rules which appear logical to them and accepted by us > as such. I don't believe in an after-life and consider this life > itself to be a spiritual experience. > If this life is the spiritual experience the implication is that the spirit is mortal. If that is the case what's the difference between a spiritual and a non-spiritual life experience? > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Chuck Bowling > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM, [email protected] > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hey Chuck, > >> > >> I guess it depends on what you belive God is. > >> > >> If you believe that God is the creator then everything has Gods hand > >> in it, if you further belive that God is omipitant then God you are > >> exactly the way that God has designed you to be. > > > > I believe that god/goddess/gods etc. are icons. They are concepts that > help > > people cope with their own frailties and inadequacies. Whether it be to > > blame bad things on, attribute good things to, or to provide us a path to > > continue our existence beyond the grave. > > > >> > >> If you are a gardner, and you splice together two differant plants to > >> gain a desird result, the plant does have a life of it's own, but > >> works in the way you have designd it to. So in a real way you are the > >> manipulator of that plants life, your hand is in all that it does, as > >> you have designed it. > > > > Here I would say that the original design was altered. A much easier task > > than the original design. > > > > As I may have mentioned in a previous post, I readily accept the > possibility > > that some entity may have created this universe. And, I think that > anything > > with that kind of power would probably appear to be omniscient to us. > > However, I also believe that it is VERY unlikely that any entity that > could > > have created this reality would bare even the slightest resemblance to > > anything we describe as a god. > > > > The reasoning for that seems fairly straightforward to me: > > > > Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame. I mean come > > on. You want me to kill a goat, sacrifice a virgin, or set fire to a wax > > stick in your honor. REALLY??? And you're going to send me to hell for > > eternity because I thought the neighbor's wife was a hot piece of tail? > > Jeesh. As gods go you suck dude. > > > > Another thing. You would think that god would find a better way of > > correcting bad behavior than to fry people for an eternity. Even we lowly > > humans know that setting someone on fire is not the best way to convince > 'em > > to mend their ways. > > > > Lastly but not finally. If god created this reality then at a minimum he > > created one and possibly infinitely more universes. In this one there are > an > > estimated 300 sextillion stars. That's 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 > stars > > if you're looking for precision. You would think that with all that stuff > > floating around out there that he/she/it would have better things to do > than > > make sure that little johnnies prayers are answered with a brand new bike > on > > his birthday. > > > > My guess is that any entity capable of creating all of this would see us > as > > a minor infestation of germs at best. > > > >> On Apr 20, 5:40 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > Whatever work I do and the effort that I make , is it God doing it ? > >> > > No , I do it all , but It is God who gives me the strength to do it. > >> > > Without His strength even the resolve to do anything wouldn't come > to > >> > > my mind. > >> > > >> > Now when you say that God is giving you strength can you be more > >> > specific? > >> > Is he providing your mitochondria with more ADP or is he upping your > >> > serotonin or dopamine levels to give you a greater feeling of reward > for > >> > your accomplishments? > >> > > >> > And, if so, can you tell me exactly how he does that? I mean, is he > >> > causing > >> > re-uptake inhibition or is he actually producing a greater volume of > >> > chemical messengers at the synapse? > >> > > >> > I guess if it's psychological strength it would have to be the latter. > >> > If it > >> > were greater physical strength then you'd probably be able to lift > cars > >> > off > >> > the ground. > > >
