I agree that the death penalty should never be used in cases where the evidence is circumstantial. However, in cases where there is no dispute (say a video of a guy committing a horrendous crime), I think it should be used. This person is a threat to society and his impact on the resources of that society should be minimalized. In other words he should be put to death as soon and as economically as possible.
That said, I'm absolutely against inhumane treatment. While that person may be a monster there is no real justification in tormenting him in his final hours or minutes. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:15 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected] > wrote: > I agree that the death penalty isn’t a punishment…although, it is > often torture and ‘cruel and unusual’. It also is not reversible. It > also is misapplied and used all too often against those who are > innocent of the crime involved. > > All of the practical issues aside, to me, if killing is “wrong” > somehow, so is killing a killer. Period. > > > On May 11, 10:12 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I think the word 'deserving' used in this context is kinda silly. > > > > Let's start with a simple example. A guy kills somebody in a brutal way. > If > > he is already suicidal and wants to die does he 'deserve' to die? This > case > > implies that he deserves to be rewarded for a brutal murder. > > > > I can't claim to know Bin Laden's mindset at the time of his death but > for > > the sake of argument let's say that his one true goal is to be a martyr > for > > Allah. Does he deserve martyerdom? > > > > The whole idea of death as a punishment is silly. When someone is dead > they > > no longer feel punished. IMO, they feel absolutely nothing. > > > > Note that doesn't mean that I'm against putting people to death for > crimes > > against society. I just look at the reasoning differently. The death > penalty > > isn't a punishment. It's simply removing a tumor that is detrimental to > the > > whole. > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, pol.science kid <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading about natural law..and a though came to my mind ...in > > > connection to revenge...and the concept of 'deserving' what someone > > > gets..recent example osama deserved to die for what he did...what i > > > mean is...is it natural...or universally presumed ...like in the > > > language to 'forgive' ...not give ...give back....give back what is > > > due...the same injury...i cant go into detail at the moment but this > > > what the jist is...is it a crude neutralising of equation...is that > > > what it all comes down to in simple terms >
