Oh, and as what is perhaps a shallow argument, video can all too easily be edited.
And, it is well documented that the US justice system has executed and continues to execute many who were/are innocent of the crime involved. On May 11, 11:23 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree that the death penalty should never be used in cases where the > evidence is circumstantial. However, in cases where there is no dispute (say > a video of a guy committing a horrendous crime), I think it should be used. > This person is a threat to society and his impact on the resources of that > society should be minimalized. In other words he should be put to death as > soon and as economically as possible. > > That said, I'm absolutely against inhumane treatment. While that person may > be a monster there is no real justification in tormenting him in his final > hours or minutes. > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:15 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > I agree that the death penalty isn’t a punishment…although, it is > > often torture and ‘cruel and unusual’. It also is not reversible. It > > also is misapplied and used all too often against those who are > > innocent of the crime involved. > > > All of the practical issues aside, to me, if killing is “wrong” > > somehow, so is killing a killer. Period. > > > On May 11, 10:12 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > I think the word 'deserving' used in this context is kinda silly. > > > > Let's start with a simple example. A guy kills somebody in a brutal way. > > If > > > he is already suicidal and wants to die does he 'deserve' to die? This > > case > > > implies that he deserves to be rewarded for a brutal murder. > > > > I can't claim to know Bin Laden's mindset at the time of his death but > > for > > > the sake of argument let's say that his one true goal is to be a martyr > > for > > > Allah. Does he deserve martyerdom? > > > > The whole idea of death as a punishment is silly. When someone is dead > > they > > > no longer feel punished. IMO, they feel absolutely nothing. > > > > Note that doesn't mean that I'm against putting people to death for > > crimes > > > against society. I just look at the reasoning differently. The death > > penalty > > > isn't a punishment. It's simply removing a tumor that is detrimental to > > the > > > whole. > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, pol.science kid <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > I was reading about natural law..and a though came to my mind ...in > > > > connection to revenge...and the concept of 'deserving' what someone > > > > gets..recent example osama deserved to die for what he did...what i > > > > mean is...is it natural...or universally presumed ...like in the > > > > language to 'forgive' ...not give ...give back....give back what is > > > > due...the same injury...i cant go into detail at the moment but this > > > > what the jist is...is it a crude neutralising of equation...is that > > > > what it all comes down to in simple terms
