I believe that the electric chair should be classified as inhumane. I'm not sure about the gas chamber. Cyanide poisoning seems like a nasty way to go to me. However, lethal injection and a bullet to the back of the head seem to be the most humane methods available. I wouldn't really consider a needle in the arm as torture. Nor would I consider a bullet when done correctly.
If you wanted to argue that any form of pain was torture you could also say that not having a thousand dollar mattress in the inmate's cell was also torture because it caused back pain sleeping on the regular mattress. I never meant to imply that someone should be at perfect peace when he/she was put to death. Only that society shouldn't go out of it's way to torment. On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > It is my understanding that all current methods of execution include > numerous examples of 'inhumane treatment'... boiled down to what to > most of us is torture/tormenting. > > On May 11, 11:23 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I agree that the death penalty should never be used in cases where the > > evidence is circumstantial. However, in cases where there is no dispute > (say > > a video of a guy committing a horrendous crime), I think it should be > used. > > This person is a threat to society and his impact on the resources of > that > > society should be minimalized. In other words he should be put to death > as > > soon and as economically as possible. > > > > That said, I'm absolutely against inhumane treatment. While that person > may > > be a monster there is no real justification in tormenting him in his > final > > hours or minutes. > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:15 PM, ornamentalmind < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > I agree that the death penalty isn’t a punishment…although, it is > > > often torture and ‘cruel and unusual’. It also is not reversible. It > > > also is misapplied and used all too often against those who are > > > innocent of the crime involved. > > > > > All of the practical issues aside, to me, if killing is “wrong” > > > somehow, so is killing a killer. Period. > > > > > On May 11, 10:12 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > I think the word 'deserving' used in this context is kinda silly. > > > > > > Let's start with a simple example. A guy kills somebody in a brutal > way. > > > If > > > > he is already suicidal and wants to die does he 'deserve' to die? > This > > > case > > > > implies that he deserves to be rewarded for a brutal murder. > > > > > > I can't claim to know Bin Laden's mindset at the time of his death > but > > > for > > > > the sake of argument let's say that his one true goal is to be a > martyr > > > for > > > > Allah. Does he deserve martyerdom? > > > > > > The whole idea of death as a punishment is silly. When someone is > dead > > > they > > > > no longer feel punished. IMO, they feel absolutely nothing. > > > > > > Note that doesn't mean that I'm against putting people to death for > > > crimes > > > > against society. I just look at the reasoning differently. The death > > > penalty > > > > isn't a punishment. It's simply removing a tumor that is detrimental > to > > > the > > > > whole. > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, pol.science kid < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I was reading about natural law..and a though came to my mind ...in > > > > > connection to revenge...and the concept of 'deserving' what someone > > > > > gets..recent example osama deserved to die for what he did...what i > > > > > mean is...is it natural...or universally presumed ...like in the > > > > > language to 'forgive' ...not give ...give back....give back what is > > > > > due...the same injury...i cant go into detail at the moment but > this > > > > > what the jist is...is it a crude neutralising of equation...is that > > > > > what it all comes down to in simple terms >
