> Why should we not what?

Ahh come on Chuck, do you not remember your own post?

You asked:

'Why should he be afforded more rights than the person he
killed?'

So why should we not afford him the same rights, has his acts somehow
invaladated his rights?

> My original point was that life is cheap. We don't kill because it's right
> or wrong. We kill for expediency

Yes I agree, we kill for many reasons, but still don't make it moraly
correct though, IMO.

> Personally I don't claim any kind of superiority - moral or otherwise. If
> somebody steals from me I'll try to steal back my property and possibly
> anything else that happens to be lying around. I may even give the guy a
> punch in the nose on the way out the door. If you want to call me a thief
> for it go ahead.


You may not claim it, you do have it though.  Every time you judge the
actions of somebody immoral you are showing it.

> This just leads into the whole argument - is war right or wrong. Is it wrong
> for a street gang to retaliate when it's territory is breached by a rival
> gang? If no then why is it right for nations to do the same thing?


Indeed and some arguments are worth having are they not?

My stance?

War apart from war to kick out an invading force is wrong.  Gang
warfare is not only wrong but stupid anyway.


On May 19, 1:12 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:23 AM, [email protected] <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Why should we not?
>
> Why should we not what?
>
> > Should we instead make our selfs guilty of the same behaviour that
> > seems universal reprehensabile?  Should we then sink to that level
> > ourselves?  Two wrongs don't make a right and all that.
>
> My original point was that life is cheap. We don't kill because it's right
> or wrong. We kill for expediency.
>
> > The point is to maintian that moral superiority.  If a man steals from
> > me, can I then steal from him?  Wouldn't that make me also a theif?
>
> Personally I don't claim any kind of superiority - moral or otherwise. If
> somebody steals from me I'll try to steal back my property and possibly
> anything else that happens to be lying around. I may even give the guy a
> punch in the nose on the way out the door. If you want to call me a thief
> for it go ahead.
>
> > revenge killings as we know only lead to further revenge killings.  We
> > have here in the UK a growing youth gang problem, with kids killing
> > other kids for slights imagined or otherwise, and then in turn the
> > other gang of kids killing members of the ther other gang.  Is that
> > right, it is the correct behaviour?
>
> This just leads into the whole argument - is war right or wrong. Is it wrong
> for a street gang to retaliate when it's territory is breached by a rival
> gang? If no then why is it right for nations to do the same thing?
>
> > Killing a killer makes no logical sense.
>
> I disagree. Killing a killer has value.
>
> It removes a threat from society.
> It frees up resources needed to protect the society from that killer.
> It provides a deterrent against other killings.

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