I have to disagree. There is really no point in torturing a person who's
fate is already determined. I don't have anything against revenge but why
bother with someone who is going to die anyway?

As to letting the victim's family decide if a killer should live or die,
once the convict has been determined to be a menace to society the death
penalty isn't really about punishment. It's about protecting society. The
family shouldn't have a say so in whether society should be protected or
not.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:24 PM, the taoist shaman <[email protected]>wrote:

> i think the victoms family should decide wether or not killer is put
> to death , and if so , the method of exicution , take itchy and
> scratchy from the simpsons for example , itchy covers scratchy in BBQ
> sauce , and opens a box of flesh eating ants !
>
>
>
> Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:23 AM, [email protected] <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Why should we not?
> > >
> >
> > Why should we not what?
> >
> >
> > > Should we instead make our selfs guilty of the same behaviour that
> > > seems universal reprehensabile?  Should we then sink to that level
> > > ourselves?  Two wrongs don't make a right and all that.
> > >
> >
> > My original point was that life is cheap. We don't kill because it's
> right
> > or wrong. We kill for expediency.
> >
> >
> > > The point is to maintian that moral superiority.  If a man steals from
> > > me, can I then steal from him?  Wouldn't that make me also a theif?
> > >
> >
> > Personally I don't claim any kind of superiority - moral or otherwise. If
> > somebody steals from me I'll try to steal back my property and possibly
> > anything else that happens to be lying around. I may even give the guy a
> > punch in the nose on the way out the door. If you want to call me a thief
> > for it go ahead.
> >
> >
> > > revenge killings as we know only lead to further revenge killings.  We
> > > have here in the UK a growing youth gang problem, with kids killing
> > > other kids for slights imagined or otherwise, and then in turn the
> > > other gang of kids killing members of the ther other gang.  Is that
> > > right, it is the correct behaviour?
> > >
> >
> > This just leads into the whole argument - is war right or wrong. Is it
> wrong
> > for a street gang to retaliate when it's territory is breached by a rival
> > gang? If no then why is it right for nations to do the same thing?
> >
> >
> > > Killing a killer makes no logical sense.
> > >
> >
> > I disagree. Killing a killer has value.
> >
> > It removes a threat from society.
> > It frees up resources needed to protect the society from that killer.
> > It provides a deterrent against other killings.
>

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