Exactly Ash.
On May 19, 4:51 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > Cheer up man, it was an easy one, tit for tat I think: "of corse nature > is both extreems , my origonal point was in responce to a statment , " > nature is eat or be eaten " this statment is anarrow minded view , your > glass is half full , u look to self and assume others do the same , so > it would seem" > > Nothing to worry much with though, roll with it. > > On 5/18/2011 9:01 AM, the taoist shaman wrote: > > > > > treating others the way they treat you , instead of the way you know > > you should , mirroring the person accross from you , is sage like > > advice ? im sorry but that sounds more like sheepole thiking than > > people . im sorry im not trying to be mean , thats just my opinion . > > > the taoist shaman wrote: > >> she made an arogant , insalting , assumption ,..... i though , maybe > >> im wrong , i dont know. > > >> [email protected] wrote: > >>> I think it more a sage piece of advice. > > >>> We are all to some degree or other selfish, the religous amongst us > >>> are more selfish than most. yep yep me included. > > >>> Why do I say this? > > >>> Well I'm concerned with my soul, I really don't care what you choose > >>> to do about your own. > > >>> This is all natural and indeed good, indivdual choice, is amongst the > >>> greatest of Gods gifts to us. To be able to choose, to be born free > >>> and not a slave. Ahh life is good. > > >>> Think about it, nobody would relinquish choice easily, indeed it is > >>> hard to say 'not my will ohh lord but yours' and harder to live it. > > >>> On May 18, 6:06 am, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> rigsy --- " do u assume that others have your best intrest in mind ? > >>>> is this wize ? how has this worked out for you thus far ? "----- > >>>> sounds like u being genuinely mean person , if i have misinterpreted > >>>> your intentions i apologise . > > >>>> rigsy03 wrote: > >>>>> I think we have to deal with false interest/altruism everyday via the > >>>>> government, media, etc. which is why dissent is the key to democracy- > >>>>> perhaps. Yes- we depend on sincere kindness and love. Why would you > >>>>> think I feel otherwise? You seem to be doing fine. Is this due to > >>>>> "trust/verify"? > >>>>> On May 15, 10:29 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> of corse others dont always have my best intrest in mind ! what fool > >>>>>> would belive that , please dont make assumptions / ASS OUT OF U AND > >>>>>> ME /ASSUME____ im a jack ass not a dumb ass ___ others dont need to > >>>>>> look out for me in order for me to look out for them , do u use fire > >>>>>> to put out fire riggs , i try my best to use water but some fires dont > >>>>>> die unless u smuther them , as far as your view on nature , sometimes > >>>>>> the worst example is the best example of what not to be , by the way > >>>>>> its taken some faith but yes it is working , ive been surviving on the > >>>>>> kindness of others for a few months now , people looking out for me , > >>>>>> because they know i would do the same , others because they genuinely > >>>>>> get satisfaction from being human to other humans , some will never > >>>>>> know this satisfaction , and in my opinion this overpopulated world > >>>>>> has no room for selfish people , i have no job and have given over > >>>>>> 100$ in food to friends and there children in the past week , i myself > >>>>>> struggle to eat , but love others more than myself , HUMILATY is > >>>>>> verrry hard to maintain when dealing with the selfish but ALL should > >>>>>> be treated equally , that they might turn to another , more human , > >>>>>> path . eather your on the team or your an opponent , keep your > >>>>>> enameys close that they might become an allie > >>>>>> youve got to be trusted by the people that you lie to , so that when > >>>>>> they turn there back on you , youll have the chance to put the knife > >>>>>> in ! ------RODGER WALTERS > >>>>>> he had a poor frame of mind ( although i dont believe that was his > >>>>>> true opinion , but rather a divice used to call out the wicked ) > >>>>>> rigsy03 wrote: > >>>>>>> How do you explain the cycles of nature if not by the eat/eaten > >>>>>>> formula? The image is not as cynical as you might think when you > >>>>>>> consider all the in-betweens, as well. > >>>>>>> The glass was half-empty afterall! :-) The washer was not installed > >>>>>>> properly- it was not level- checked the "bubbles"- which affected the > >>>>>>> spin cycle. I corrected the side-to-side but can't deal with the front > >>>>>>> to back as the floor slants to a floor drain. It's covered so a > >>>>>>> repairman will be out Monday. Hopefully the washer is not already > >>>>>>> ruined. > >>>>>>> I usually take others/events at face value but am able to change my > >>>>>>> mind, if necessary. Do you assume everyone has your best interest at > >>>>>>> heart? Is this wise? How has that worked out for you thus far? > >>>>>>> On May 13, 11:34 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> of corse nature is both extreems , my origonal point was in responce > >>>>>>>> to a statment , " nature is eat or be eaten " this statment is > >>>>>>>> anarrow > >>>>>>>> minded view , your glass is half full , u look to self and assume > >>>>>>>> others do the same , so it would seem > >>>>>>>> rigsy03 wrote: > >>>>>>>>> The same animals do not work together either. Check out the mating > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and female, male > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> male, female and female, child to child human beings!!! > >>>>>>>>> On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work together' > >>>>>>>>>> actually > >>>>>>>>>> means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work together is > >>>>>>>>>> that there > >>>>>>>>>> is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual benefit of > >>>>>>>>>> both. > >>>>>>>>>> Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only that most > >>>>>>>>>> don't. > >>>>>>>>>> For instance; > >>>>>>>>>> The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride along. It > >>>>>>>>>> just does > >>>>>>>>>> because that is where the feeding grounds are. > >>>>>>>>>> The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the hippo > >>>>>>>>>> actually > >>>>>>>>>> gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean. > >>>>>>>>>> Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them. > >>>>>>>>>> Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned. > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there is a > >>>>>>>>>> difference > >>>>>>>>>> between symbiotes and parasites. > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist > >>>>>>>>>> shaman<[email protected]>wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no real > >>>>>>>>>>> evidence but > >>>>>>>>>>> nether do you , although the answer is there to be researched . ( > >>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>> essentialy " symbiotic " .... theres too much to be said , > >>>>>>>>>>> suckers > >>>>>>>>>>> feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off > >>>>>>>>>>> hippopotamus , > >>>>>>>>>>> diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work together , > >>>>>>>>>>> man > >>>>>>>>>>> and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo ) , every > >>>>>>>>>>> scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless , vague , > >>>>>>>>>>> speck of > >>>>>>>>>>> what i mean to convay , oh well . > >>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Bowling wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a symbiotic > >>>>>>>>>>> relationship. > >>>>>>>>>>>> The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey sees the > >>>>>>>>>>>> deer run and > >>>>>>>>>>>> being at about the same point in the food chain figures that it > >>>>>>>>>>>> should > >>>>>>>>>>> run > >>>>>>>>>>>> too. > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist > >>>>>>>>>>>> shaman<[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human experience > >>>>>>>>>>>>> . the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous beasts , > >>>>>>>>>>>>> deer and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the deer keep a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> look > >>>>>>>>>>>>> out , monkeys pick nuts , > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ash wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom, last time I > >>>>>>>>>>> checked > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentality of > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> herd is a natural behavior to social creatures, that and our > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> talented > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors that go > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> norm while the norm is reinforced with confirmation bias. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your statments contradict each other , besides we are not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals , > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well....... i can be a bit of an animal from time to time but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can you expect governance unless you can control the > >>>>>>>>>>> population? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What else is new? :-) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even a family needs order and control, doesn't it? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't you observe the order of nature? The routines of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be eaten. :-) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are most people really sheepole ? can i get a ya or nay- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hide > >>>>>>>>>>> quoted > >>>>>>>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
