I think we have to deal with false interest/altruism everyday via the government, media, etc. which is why dissent is the key to democracy- perhaps. Yes- we depend on sincere kindness and love. Why would you think I feel otherwise? You seem to be doing fine. Is this due to "trust/verify"?
On May 15, 10:29 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > of corse others dont always have my best intrest in mind ! what fool > would belive that , please dont make assumptions / ASS OUT OF U AND > ME /ASSUME____ im a jack ass not a dumb ass ___ others dont need to > look out for me in order for me to look out for them , do u use fire > to put out fire riggs , i try my best to use water but some fires dont > die unless u smuther them , as far as your view on nature , sometimes > the worst example is the best example of what not to be , by the way > its taken some faith but yes it is working , ive been surviving on the > kindness of others for a few months now , people looking out for me , > because they know i would do the same , others because they genuinely > get satisfaction from being human to other humans , some will never > know this satisfaction , and in my opinion this overpopulated world > has no room for selfish people , i have no job and have given over > 100$ in food to friends and there children in the past week , i myself > struggle to eat , but love others more than myself , HUMILATY is > verrry hard to maintain when dealing with the selfish but ALL should > be treated equally , that they might turn to another , more human , > path . eather your on the team or your an opponent , keep your > enameys close that they might become an allie > > youve got to be trusted by the people that you lie to , so that when > they turn there back on you , youll have the chance to put the knife > in ! ------RODGER WALTERS > > he had a poor frame of mind ( although i dont believe that was his > true opinion , but rather a divice used to call out the wicked ) > > > > rigsy03 wrote: > > How do you explain the cycles of nature if not by the eat/eaten > > formula? The image is not as cynical as you might think when you > > consider all the in-betweens, as well. > > > The glass was half-empty afterall! :-) The washer was not installed > > properly- it was not level- checked the "bubbles"- which affected the > > spin cycle. I corrected the side-to-side but can't deal with the front > > to back as the floor slants to a floor drain. It's covered so a > > repairman will be out Monday. Hopefully the washer is not already > > ruined. > > > I usually take others/events at face value but am able to change my > > mind, if necessary. Do you assume everyone has your best interest at > > heart? Is this wise? How has that worked out for you thus far? > > > On May 13, 11:34 pm, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > of corse nature is both extreems , my origonal point was in responce > > > to a statment , " nature is eat or be eaten " this statment is anarrow > > > minded view , your glass is half full , u look to self and assume > > > others do the same , so it would seem > > > > rigsy03 wrote: > > > > The same animals do not work together either. Check out the mating of > > > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and female, male and > > > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!! > > > > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work together' > > > > > actually > > > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work together is > > > > > that there > > > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual benefit of > > > > > both. > > > > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only that most > > > > > don't. > > > > > > For instance; > > > > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride along. It just > > > > > does > > > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are. > > > > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the hippo > > > > > actually > > > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean. > > > > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them. > > > > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned. > > > > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there is a > > > > > difference > > > > > between symbiotes and parasites. > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no real evidence > > > > > > but > > > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be researched . ( > > > > > > not > > > > > > essentialy " symbiotic " .... theres too much to be said , suckers > > > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off hippopotamus > > > > > > , > > > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work together , > > > > > > man > > > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo ) , every > > > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless , vague , speck > > > > > > of > > > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well . > > > > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote: > > > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a symbiotic > > > > > > relationship. > > > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey sees the deer > > > > > > > run and > > > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain figures that it > > > > > > > should > > > > > > run > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human experience > > > > > > > > . the > > > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous beasts , > > > > > > > > deer and > > > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the deer keep a > > > > > > > > look > > > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts , > > > > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ? > > > > > > > > > Ash wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom, last time I > > > > > > checked > > > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think the > > > > > > > > > mentality of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social creatures, that and our > > > > > > > > > talented > > > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors that go > > > > > > > > > against the > > > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with confirmation bias. > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other , besides we are not > > > > > > > > > > animals , > > > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal from time to time > > > > > > > > > > but ..... > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you can control the > > > > > > population? > > > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-) > > > > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control, doesn't it? > > > > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature? The routines of the > > > > > > > > > >> natural > > > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be eaten. :-) > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> are most people really sheepole ? can i get a ya or nay- > > > > > > > > > >>> Hide > > > > > > quoted > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
