Cheer up man, it was an easy one, tit for tat I think: "of corse nature
is both extreems , my origonal point was in responce to a statment , "
nature is eat or be eaten " this statment is anarrow minded view , your
glass is half full , u look to self and assume others do the same , so
it would seem"
Nothing to worry much with though, roll with it.
On 5/18/2011 9:01 AM, the taoist shaman wrote:
treating others the way they treat you , instead of the way you know
you should , mirroring the person accross from you , is sage like
advice ? im sorry but that sounds more like sheepole thiking than
people . im sorry im not trying to be mean , thats just my opinion .
the taoist shaman wrote:
she made an arogant , insalting , assumption ,..... i though , maybe
im wrong , i dont know.
[email protected] wrote:
I think it more a sage piece of advice.
We are all to some degree or other selfish, the religous amongst us
are more selfish than most. yep yep me included.
Why do I say this?
Well I'm concerned with my soul, I really don't care what you choose
to do about your own.
This is all natural and indeed good, indivdual choice, is amongst the
greatest of Gods gifts to us. To be able to choose, to be born free
and not a slave. Ahh life is good.
Think about it, nobody would relinquish choice easily, indeed it is
hard to say 'not my will ohh lord but yours' and harder to live it.
On May 18, 6:06 am, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> wrote:
rigsy --- " do u assume that others have your best intrest in mind ?
is this wize ? how has this worked out for you thus far ? "-----
sounds like u being genuinely mean person , if i have misinterpreted
your intentions i apologise .
rigsy03 wrote:
I think we have to deal with false interest/altruism everyday via the
government, media, etc. which is why dissent is the key to democracy-
perhaps. Yes- we depend on sincere kindness and love. Why would you
think I feel otherwise? You seem to be doing fine. Is this due to
"trust/verify"?
On May 15, 10:29 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> wrote:
of corse others dont always have my best intrest in mind ! what fool
would belive that , please dont make assumptions / ASS OUT OF U AND
ME /ASSUME____ im a jack ass not a dumb ass ___ others dont need to
look out for me in order for me to look out for them , do u use fire
to put out fire riggs , i try my best to use water but some fires dont
die unless u smuther them , as far as your view on nature , sometimes
the worst example is the best example of what not to be , by the way
its taken some faith but yes it is working , ive been surviving on the
kindness of others for a few months now , people looking out for me ,
because they know i would do the same , others because they genuinely
get satisfaction from being human to other humans , some will never
know this satisfaction , and in my opinion this overpopulated world
has no room for selfish people , i have no job and have given over
100$ in food to friends and there children in the past week , i myself
struggle to eat , but love others more than myself , HUMILATY is
verrry hard to maintain when dealing with the selfish but ALL should
be treated equally , that they might turn to another , more human ,
path . eather your on the team or your an opponent , keep your
enameys close that they might become an allie
youve got to be trusted by the people that you lie to , so that when
they turn there back on you , youll have the chance to put the knife
in ! ------RODGER WALTERS
he had a poor frame of mind ( although i dont believe that was his
true opinion , but rather a divice used to call out the wicked )
rigsy03 wrote:
How do you explain the cycles of nature if not by the eat/eaten
formula? The image is not as cynical as you might think when you
consider all the in-betweens, as well.
The glass was half-empty afterall! :-) The washer was not installed
properly- it was not level- checked the "bubbles"- which affected the
spin cycle. I corrected the side-to-side but can't deal with the front
to back as the floor slants to a floor drain. It's covered so a
repairman will be out Monday. Hopefully the washer is not already
ruined.
I usually take others/events at face value but am able to change my
mind, if necessary. Do you assume everyone has your best interest at
heart? Is this wise? How has that worked out for you thus far?
On May 13, 11:34 pm, the taoist shaman<[email protected]> wrote:
of corse nature is both extreems , my origonal point was in responce
to a statment , " nature is eat or be eaten " this statment is anarrow
minded view , your glass is half full , u look to self and assume
others do the same , so it would seem
rigsy03 wrote:
The same animals do not work together either. Check out the mating of
AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and female, male and
male, female and female, child to child human beings!!!
On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling<[email protected]>
wrote:
Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work together' actually
means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work together is that there
is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual benefit of both.
Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only that most don't.
For instance;
The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride along. It just does
because that is where the feeding grounds are.
The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the hippo actually
gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean.
Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them.
Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned.
I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there is a difference
between symbiotes and parasites.
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman<[email protected]>wrote:
thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no real evidence but
nether do you , although the answer is there to be researched . ( not
essentialy " symbiotic " .... theres too much to be said , suckers
feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off hippopotamus ,
diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work together , man
and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo ) , every
scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless , vague , speck of
what i mean to convay , oh well .
Chuck Bowling wrote:
Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a symbiotic
relationship.
The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey sees the deer run and
being at about the same point in the food chain figures that it should
run
too.
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman<[email protected]
wrote:
i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human experience . the
point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous beasts , deer and
monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the deer keep a look
out , monkeys pick nuts ,
is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ?
Ash wrote:
Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom, last time I
checked
we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think the mentality of
the
herd is a natural behavior to social creatures, that and our talented
rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors that go against the
norm while the norm is reinforced with confirmation bias.
On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote:
your statments contradict each other , besides we are not animals ,
well....... i can be a bit of an animal from time to time but .....
On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote:
How can you expect governance unless you can control the
population?
What else is new? :-)
Even a family needs order and control, doesn't it?
Don't you observe the order of nature? The routines of the natural
world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be eaten. :-)
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