I worked on our 11yr old minivan until 6am this morning, all I need is to mitigate all the body rust, somehow fix the strut tower, fix/recharge the A/C and give 'er a tune up/oil change. Adoptions can get messy. But I've pulled 'gold' from dumpsters like great stereos that needed a fuse or other electronics with minor cord or cosmetic fixes. Furniture is a top salvage item, hackaday.com has had some neat repurposings over the years. Being near a GM city, I think that's why, means LOTS of junk yards. :)

On 6/8/2011 10:39 AM, gabbydott wrote:
Let's all be grateful that your Wikipedia links update themselves then. ;)

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:44 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    *** notes that he has an 18 year old CRT TV, a 15 year old car and has
    only 4 very old plastic patio chairs to sit on in his living room, one
    in his bed room along with a padded roll chair pulled from a dumpster
    for free ***

    On Jun 7, 8:15 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:
    > Hummm... For some reason I had the impression you were male.
    >
    > At any rate, I don't think education or economic status has much
    to do with
    > our susceptibility. We can all be manipulated into believing
    things that
    > aren't necessarily true. Take the social prerogative to stay one
    up on the
    > next door neighbors. Millions are spent on commercial campaigns
    that try and
    > convince us that we should have a bigger TV, newer car, or better
    > furniture.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:46 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > > Yes- history is a violent version of Musical Chairs.
    >
    > > General populations with poor educations/economies believe
    anything in
    > > order to thrive/survive.
    >
    > > I am female so we obviously have different sins on our souls.
    >
    > > On Jun 6, 10:06 am, Chuck Bowling
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > wrote:
    > > > Germany and Spain as well as every other country and culture
    has it's own
    > > > version of normal. Our view of the norms in Nazi Germany are
    that it's
    > > > repugnant. But, Nazi propaganda convinced a significant
    minority that
    > > Jews
    > > > were abnormal. The general population accepted the
    propaganda as the norm
    > > > irregardless of their individual beliefs and it became the norm.
    >
    > > > We are all liars and we are all thieves. Can you honestly
    say that you've
    > > > never stolen an extra bite of mac & cheese off someone's
    plate or told
    > > your
    > > > wife that you didn't mind her stockings hanging in the shower?
    >
    > > > - It's the norm.
    >
    > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:56 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > > > > Fitting into what??? Nazi Germany? The Spanish
    Inqusition??? What if
    > > > > "normal" is psychotic? Or shallow? (What happened to your
    > > > > Objectivism?) Our "own experience" is not unique- it is a
    way of
    > > > > identifying with moral stuggles in a universal sense.
    Societies may
    > > > > become dazzled with their innovations but human character
    really
    > > > > hasn't changed much over the centuries- a liar is still a
    liar- a
    > > > > thief is still a thief, etc.
    >
    > > > > On Jun 5, 9:46 pm, Chuck Bowling
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > I believe that social norms are simply a metric for
    fitting into a
    > > > > society.
    > > > > > The closer one is to achieving the 'norm' within that
    particular
    > > society
    > > > > the
    > > > > > more integrated and accepted he is in that society.
    Being 'normal' is
    > > a
    > > > > > subjective quality that only applies in the society
    where it is
    > > defined.
    >
    > > > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:59 AM, rigsy03
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > > > > > > Actually, the greatest teacher is still our own
    experiences unless
    > > > > > > life is vicarious. Education can expand our options.
    It takes some
    > > > > > > time to shake off family or tribal/clan behaviors.
    Ethics responds
    > > to
    > > > > > > real time/historical eras- what is a good life?- how
    ought we
    > > behave?-
    > > > > > > so that branch of philosophy remains active. I don't
    think that
    > > what a
    > > > > > > society accepts as norms should be so readily accepted
    as a guide
    > > but
    > > > > > > should be examined and tested.
    >
    > > > > > > On Jun 3, 11:05 am, Chuck Bowling
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > If by education you mean learning from the
    experiences of others
    > > then
    > > > > by
    > > > > > > > definition that would be a social behavior.
    >
    > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:56 AM, rigsy03
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > I disagree- our behavior options have changed-
    radically. We
    > > change
    > > > > > > > > more from education than our enviornment as long
    as learning is
    > > a
    > > > > life-
    > > > > > > > > long affair.
    >
    > > > > > > > > On Jun 1, 10:09 pm, Chuck Bowling <
    > > [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > > > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > I think that if you're going to talk about human
    behavior you
    > > > > should
    > > > > > > > > > differentiate between social and individual
    behavior. I don't
    > > > > think
    > > > > > > that
    > > > > > > > > the
    > > > > > > > > > behavior of humans as individuals has changed
    much since we
    > > > > climbed
    > > > > > > out
    > > > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > > the trees. As social animals I think we are
    constantly
    > > evolving
    > > > > and
    > > > > > > > > adapting
    > > > > > > > > > to our environments.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:33 AM, rigsy03
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we should reduce the time frame to 3 or
    4 thousand
    > > years.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > I dragged you into my midnight thoughts and
    remembered a
    > > film-
    > > > > > > > > > > Japanese- "Roshoman" which I saw later than
    its release
    > > time of
    > > > > > > 1950
    > > > > > > > > > > which got into this "what is reality" business
    and made
    > > > > somewhat of
    > > > > > > an
    > > > > > > > > > > impact on my thinking along with "point of
    view". I suppose
    > > > > this
    > > > > > > might
    > > > > > > > > > > lead off into empathy but it still would not
    solve the
    > > > > definition
    > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > > > "What Is Reality?".
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > Will post another topic that is related to
    "human nature"-
    > > > > "human
    > > > > > > > > > > rights".
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > On May 31, 6:00 pm, Chuck Bowling <
    > > > > [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > To be honest, I'm not even sure what 'human
    nature'
    > > means.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > As to reality, I think that we all struggle
    to try and
    > > > > understand
    > > > > > > it.
    > > > > > > > > > > > Scientists want to define it with logic and
    theologians
    > > want
    > > > > to
    > > > > > > > > define it
    > > > > > > > > > > > with religious belief.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:03 PM, rigsy03 <
    > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think human nature will change-
    ever? Then it
    > > really
    > > > > > > doesn't
    > > > > > > > > > > > > matter about reality.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 29, 7:36 pm, Chuck Bowling <
    > > > > > > [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nanotech is just the implementation of
    another layer
    > > of
    > > > > our
    > > > > > > > > > > understanding
    > > > > > > > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > the universe. I think we still have a
    long ways to go
    > > > > before
    > > > > > > we
    > > > > > > > > > > actually
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > have a firm grasp on the true nature of
    reality.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM,
    Menfranco Laws <
    > > > > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well said Ash, where is Pat indeed
    when we need him
    > > to
    > > > > say
    > > > > > > > > God's
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things, because for me when you are
    talking about
    > > > > nanotech
    > > > > > > > > makes me
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing about God and ask myself this
    question; Is
    > > this
    > > > > > > nanotech
    > > > > > > > > the
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link between us and God? Perhaps once
    we have
    > > learned
    > > > > > > enough
    > > > > > > > > about
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this nanotech we be able to understand
    how God
    > > works?
    > > > > Who
    > > > > > > > > knows? it
    > > > > > > > > > > is
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 24, 9:48 am, Ash
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    > > wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where's Pat when we need him?
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/2011 8:08 AM,
    > > > > [email protected]:
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm fairly certian this site is
    not umm being
    > > > > honest.
    > > > > > >  As
    > > > > > > > > far
    > > > > > > > > > > as I
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know we simply have not yet
    managed to do this.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the biggest problems in
    quantum compting
    > > is
    > > > > that
    > > > > > > old
    > > > > > > > > > > quantum
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chestnut of simply by looking we
    influence the
    > > > > result.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Quantum bit (Qbit) computing,
    the idea is
    > > to
    > > > > make
    > > > > > > use
    > > > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > > > the
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > verious quantum states of a
    moclucule, so that
    > > a
    > > > > Qbit
    > > > > > > can
    > > > > > > > > hold
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possibly 4 (all to do with spin)
    pieces of data
    > > at
    > > > > the
    > > > > > > same
    > > > > > > > > > > time.
    > > > > > > > > > > > >  The
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem comes in retriving this
    data and
    > > ensuring
    > > > > that
    > > > > > > by
    > > > > > > > > > > 'reading'
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the data it remains unchanged.
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 20, 10:17 pm, gabbydott<
    > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >
    > > > > > > > >  wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks for providing me with the
    right key
    > > words.
    > > > > And
    > > > > > > this
    > > > > > > > > is
    > > > > > > > > > > the
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff I
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> meant:
    > > > > > >http://www.dwavesys.com/en/products-services.html
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM,
    Chuck
    > > Bowling<
    >
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>  wrote:
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Nanotechnology is used in a lot
    of places but
    > > > > it's
    > > > > > > still
    > > > > > > > > far
    > > > > > > > > > > from
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reaching
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> its full potential. Right now
    most nanotech
    > > is
    > > > > just
    > > > > > > new
    > > > > > > > > > > > > applications
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> materials science. Potentially
    nanotech could
    > > be
    > > > > used
    > > > > > > to
    > > > > > > > > > > create
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > robots
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> smaller than a single human cell
    or for that
    > > > > matter
    > > > > > > to
    > > > > > > > > create
    > > > > > > > > > > new
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life.
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> As to quantum physics, it
    provides insight
    > > into
    > > > > > > > > > > microelectronics.
    > > > > > > > > > > > > But
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> hope is that one day we will be
    able to
    > > create
    > > > > > > computers
    > > > > > > > > > > based on
    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quantum
    >
    > ...
    >
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