I often find myself thinking about trance states and how we could spot them. The classic for me is that we are merely vehicles for our machine-like genes something I find 'true' and highly unlikely until I switch the tv on. I believe both that we are tranced and that ejukation is part of it. Various herd and pack animals are quite clearly tranced in respect of leadership by chemical-biological means. We have some idea of the operation in humans. The networks of our held world-views are highly self-deceptive and not really amenable to 'facts'. When we look scientifically, we find 'cactus structures' of control - my sense is that 'spin' knows something of this, but we fear something that is evolving that would replace the world view levels we have that would not rely on trance.
On Jun 9, 4:32 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > You're not being manipulated. You're going after something you really > want. I think that's different. > > On Jun 8, 9:11 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure I can agree with the idea that education makes us less > > susceptible to manipulation. In some cases it may even make us more > > susceptible. Using myself as an example, I'm fairly well educated with about > > 5 years of college but if you dangle the latest high performance graphics > > card or multi-core processor in front of me you'll have me drooling like a > > lobotomy patient in no time. > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > In regards to manipulation by culture/ads and the advantage of > > > education and it continuation in adult life, I would say it allows us > > > to see through the obvious exaggeration, lack of logic and attempt to > > > create an artificial want/need/desire. In fact, the exercise is pretty > > > humorous but I do admit to having a few shopaholic moments in my own > > > life so I have also been gullible. > > > > On Jun 7, 10:15 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Hummm... For some reason I had the impression you were male. > > > > > At any rate, I don't think education or economic status has much to do > > > with > > > > our susceptibility. We can all be manipulated into believing things that > > > > aren't necessarily true. Take the social prerogative to stay one up on > > > the > > > > next door neighbors. Millions are spent on commercial campaigns that try > > > and > > > > convince us that we should have a bigger TV, newer car, or better > > > > furniture.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
