I wish it were so, paradox. We have all these communication tools and are just as deluded and misled as the days of the herald and trumpet in the square or the carrier pigeon.
I think I had a subconscious goal that over-road (is this a word?) other potentialities- a real home and children to raise. Of course, there's more but that is another story..."Gone With the Breeze"? I'll think about it tomorrow. :-) On Jun 11, 2:21 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > Dont do it....please? We have enough of them already :) > > On Jun 11, 7:09 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > A realist. :-) > > > On Jun 10, 2:54 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So, what are your choices, rigsy03? Go on, share...:) > > > > On Jun 10, 2:59 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > True. I sure wish I'd figure out what I want to be when I grow up! :-) > > > > > On Jun 9, 11:45 am, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > You may be on to something here, archytas. There is some evidence that > > > > > we are "editors" of real time; we can never actually "live" a moment; > > > > > when you add photon travel time to neural processing time, to > > > > > referential mapping, to consciousness, you get a huge great big gap in > > > > > human "agency". > > > > > > On Jun 9, 5:07 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I often find myself thinking about trance states and how we could > > > > > > spot > > > > > > them. The classic for me is that we are merely vehicles for our > > > > > > machine-like genes something I find 'true' and highly unlikely > > > > > > until I > > > > > > switch the tv on. I believe both that we are tranced and that > > > > > > ejukation is part of it. Various herd and pack animals are quite > > > > > > clearly tranced in respect of leadership by chemical-biological > > > > > > means. We have some idea of the operation in humans. The networks > > > > > > of > > > > > > our held world-views are highly self-deceptive and not really > > > > > > amenable > > > > > > to 'facts'. When we look scientifically, we find 'cactus > > > > > > structures' > > > > > > of control - my sense is that 'spin' knows something of this, but we > > > > > > fear something that is evolving that would replace the world view > > > > > > levels we have that would not rely on trance. > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 4:32 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You're not being manipulated. You're going after something you > > > > > > > really > > > > > > > want. I think that's different. > > > > > > > > On Jun 8, 9:11 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure I can agree with the idea that education makes us > > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > > susceptible to manipulation. In some cases it may even make us > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > susceptible. Using myself as an example, I'm fairly well > > > > > > > > educated with about > > > > > > > > 5 years of college but if you dangle the latest high > > > > > > > > performance graphics > > > > > > > > card or multi-core processor in front of me you'll have me > > > > > > > > drooling like a > > > > > > > > lobotomy patient in no time. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In regards to manipulation by culture/ads and the advantage of > > > > > > > > > education and it continuation in adult life, I would say it > > > > > > > > > allows us > > > > > > > > > to see through the obvious exaggeration, lack of logic and > > > > > > > > > attempt to > > > > > > > > > create an artificial want/need/desire. In fact, the exercise > > > > > > > > > is pretty > > > > > > > > > humorous but I do admit to having a few shopaholic moments in > > > > > > > > > my own > > > > > > > > > life so I have also been gullible. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 7, 10:15 pm, Chuck Bowling > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hummm... For some reason I had the impression you were male. > > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, I don't think education or economic status has > > > > > > > > > > much to do > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > our susceptibility. We can all be manipulated into > > > > > > > > > > believing things that > > > > > > > > > > aren't necessarily true. Take the social prerogative to > > > > > > > > > > stay one up on > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > next door neighbors. Millions are spent on commercial > > > > > > > > > > campaigns that try > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > convince us that we should have a bigger TV, newer car, or > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > furniture.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
