you know.... i do have one friend that i can call at 3 am...or perhaps
all my colg mates cos we rarely sleep at nite;-)....but ....i think
what i wanted to know was perhaps breaking down to individual
relationships.. friendships diffusing into love...now lets not discuss
love cos thats can be pandoras box ...... but think about different
bonds..and levels of connect...for example the bond between a teacher
and student...i dont mean a spiritual teacher...any one.... unlikely
friendships... i know some people...who are more emotionally dependent
on some certain friend than they are on their spouse... our literature
and popular media basically blow out of proportion the focus on
romantic relationships...focussing on it as the main and basic
relationship... sometimes that ultimate bond could be found in ones
own family....i may sound to have the greek idea in mind..or medieval
but...whatever.... although slowly it ceases to be a question .....
but i wouls still like to know what you guys think about it .... and i
will also admit here...without sounding too mawkish..i have much
gratitude for this group and members of course..esp the regular
ones..i visit other groups but this is the one for my midnight
contemplations... to try to
refine further... to be able to develop an idea with someone... does
it necessary lead to jealousy regarding the idea.... i have in mind
friendships of some philosophers.....
On Jun 20, 3:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of my favorite books might sound strange but it helped me a lot-
> esp. when a very dear friend died of a stroke in his 40's and I was
> stunned- sat at the dining room table and did large puzzles for a long
> time but also during other changes. Anyway- see if this is still in
> print if you are interested: "Necessary Losses: The Loves, Illusions,
> Dependencies and Impossible Expectations That All of Us Have to Give
> Up in Order to Grow" by Judith Viorst. I think that's where I read the
> line about that 3 am phone call.
>
> On Jun 19, 4:52 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > a few days back i read some post somewhere about the lack of
> > literature on friendship in philosophy mainly...and how it has been
> > ignored and so on.... so it got me thinking about the whole
> > affair...Friendship.... i asked myself who my friends were...i am very
> > casual in calling people my friends... in fact i realised i didnt
> > really pay much attention to it.... the word i mean... i wouldnt know
> > who to call my best friend...or a close and intimate friend...
> > because..it happens so to the person whom i would reveal my dearest
> > thoughts would be a relative stranger..in fact i dont do it
> > much...share thoughts..personal ones...i do it here but... maybe
> > because of the anonymity it lends.... plus i tend to outgrow some
> > friends... i know it sounds horrible..i dont really do it on
> > purpose..outgrow would mean... gradually losing touch...after i move
> > or something... i am sorry i dont want to make this some sort of
> > confession...but there are so many questions that confront and rack my
> > brain sometimes.... is it later in life that one makes real
> > friends...i mean after youve left that peer space...school or
> > college...l in fact leave that...its not that significant... I once
> > decided that Friendship is a vague term altogether... there are
> > individual relationships...each having a different bearing... like a
> > security personnel at your college gate... you get the point... I know
> > this is a very vast topic.and i cant really analyse it right now cos
> > this is a kind of spontaneous typing....so let me get to another
> > point.... like i mentioned above i seem careless of friends...but yet
> > i sometimes complain of the loneliness... which can be suffocating...
> > and yet i draw a line and withdraw if any relation touches on lines of
> > very personal.... i think one regards personal what one considers
> > sacred... like ones thoughts..contemplations... my question is....is
> > it possible to bond with Another... in an aristotelian way... because
> > i believe one can give ones life for someone but still be out of
> > something very impersonal.... are there some ...too self
> > absorbed...that it is almost impossible to connect on that level... it
> > is strange i have such high demands for any 'connection'...and yet i
> > am convinced there is no way i can really be with another according to
> > my standard... this must be awfully confusing... but there are many
> > smart people here ho might get the basic point.....
> > who is a friend?
> > can one really defeat the loneliness or is this loneliness only
> > immaturity on the souls part......
> > the question is now to you my 'friends'...convince me for something if
> > you will.........- Hide quoted text -
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