Okay, if that is what you believe, then is true for you. Let us end this discussion. Allan
On 5 aug. 2011, at 13:28, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for me. I do > have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you can get your >> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have one..and it limits >> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the electronic >> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is very >> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do not like >> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. >> Allan >> >> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Well Allan, >> >>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do it >>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of course >>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I would >>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. >> >>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for something >>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But really >>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a >>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this way, >>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash then I >>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a chance on >>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking you up, >>> I'll fuck myself up. >> >>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the cash to >>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take something >>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking knock ya >>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. No no >>> no, no cash no purchase. >> >>> This is the way I must live my life. >> >>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the money to >>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you call it,, >>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. >>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. >>>> Allan >> >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no cards. >> >>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions in the >>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't take it >>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they still >>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. >> >>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast ammounts of >>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical reasons for >>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. >> >>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. I think >>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice pile of >>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must declare >>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. >> >>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not changed >>> their >>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be difficult/ >>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from insecurity or >>>>>> hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist society. In >>>>>> a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. >> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>> Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. >> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts thieves and >>>>>>>> lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just enough" >>> is >>>>>>>> just fine. We could barter. >> >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . >> >>>>>>>>> It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does one >>> perosn >>>>>>>>> need to libe as they wish. >> >>>>>>>>> Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their money, >>> I >>>>> mean >>>>>>>>> what are they going to do with it? >> >>>>>>>>> Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for material >>>>>>>>> wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How though >>>>> ummmm? >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative >>> republican >>>>>>>>>> as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person with >>> two >>>>> perfectly >>>>>>>>>> good legs and refuses to walk... >> >>>>>>>>>> all wealthy people have no right to live off the poor... >>> they >>>>> all >>>>>>>>>> regardless of political view or party need to pay their share >>> of >>>>> taxes! >> >>>>>>>>>> don't tell me that they create job because they don't. >> >>>>>>>>>> as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a maximum >>>>> that can be >>>>>>>>>> sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. >>>>>>>>>> Allan >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Who would invest under your system? >> >>>>>>>>>>> What about the government reducing its expenditures by 35%? >> >>>>>>>>>>> Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from sending >>> their >>>>> excess >>>>>>>>>>> wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, local. Why >>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> they? :-) >> >>>>>>>>>>> Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I thought >>> the >>>>> world was >>>>>>>>>>> flat, at last! >> >>>>>>>>>>> Why would people turn their labor/income over to a bloated/ >>>>>>>>>>> spendthrift/ incompetant government like robots/slaves? >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Being american,, I think taxes are necessary but taxes >>> need >>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>> dependent >>>>>>>>>>>> income.. the greater the income the greater the taxes.. >>> and >>>>> removal of >>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am beginning to think that a petition needs to be >>>>> circulated placing >>>>>>>>>>>> a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with no >>>>> exemptions. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> That would go a long way to helping the relive the >>> national >>>>> debt.. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I also think all nation should have a 35% tax on money >>>>> leaving a nation.. >>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>>>> I_D Allan >> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>>>>>>>>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>> I_D Allan >> >>>>>>>>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>>>>>>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text >>> - >> >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>> -- >>>> ( >>>> ) >>>> I_D Allan >> >>>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> I_D Allan >> >> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
