I understand , the education systems have gone down hill .... the tea party goons are trying their best trying they best to make it a fascist country like Italy was just before WWII..American politics is not open for corporate bribery and or the bribery of any one as far as that goes it has become a way of life.. Allan
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:32 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > It is very difficult to understand why so many people have 'clown > views'. Kids leave our schools with tiny amounts of knowledge and > almost no skills in finding information. My grandson knows nothing of > the real world at 14 and many of his peers never will. Academe just > buried its head under the blanket about 20 years ago. My guess, Orn, > is that when people do see the kind of references you put up above, > they see them as just more propaganda (which is not the case) and > can't handle evidence at all. It should be obvious the rich have been > stealing the ground under our feet and returning us to feudal > conditions - but somehow the argument is elided. I love those Tea > Party goons who are trying to prevent America becoming Europe! > > On Aug 4, 10:25 pm, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well Allan, > > > > That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. I do it > > on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean of course > > that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I would > > rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for something > > then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But really > > this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a > > massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live this way, > > if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the cash then I > > will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a chance on > > me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by fucking you up, > > I'll fuck myself up. > > > > No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the cash to > > pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take something > > now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking knock ya > > mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in trouble. No no > > no, no cash no purchase. > > > > This is the way I must live my life. > > > > On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer the money to > > > their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what you call > it,, > > > then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be great.. > > > Allan > > > > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have no cards. > > > > > > As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions in the > > > > bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you can't take it > > > > with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then they still > > > > wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast ammounts of > > > > it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical reasons for > > > > doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope not. I > think > > > > whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a nice pile of > > > > stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must declare > > > > 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. > > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not changed > their > > > > > desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be > difficult/ > > > > > impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from insecurity or > > > > > hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist society. > In > > > > > a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts thieves > and > > > > > > > lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just > enough" is > > > > > > > just fine. We could barter. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > > > > > > > It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does one > perosn > > > > > > > > need to libe as they wish. > > > > > > > > > > Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their > money, I > > > > mean > > > > > > > > what are they going to do with it? > > > > > > > > > > Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for > material > > > > > > > > wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How though > > > > ummmm? > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative > republican > > > > > > > > > as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person > with two > > > > perfectly > > > > > > > > > good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > > > > > > > > all wealthy people have no right to live off the poor... > they > > > > all > > > > > > > > > regardless of political view or party need to pay their > share of > > > > taxes! > > > > > > > > > > > don't tell me that they create job because they don't. > > > > > > > > > > > as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a > maximum > > > > that can be > > > > > > > > > sent tax free. say 5000 dollars. > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:09 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Who would invest under your system? > > > > > > > > > > > > What about the government reducing its expenditures by > 35%? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing's to stop wealthy Liberals/Democrats from sending > their > > > > excess > > > > > > > > > > wealth to their government(s)-federal, state, local. Why > don't > > > > > > > > > > they? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Immigrants send money to their relatives also. I thought > the > > > > world was > > > > > > > > > > flat, at last! > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would people turn their labor/income over to a > bloated/ > > > > > > > > > > spendthrift/ incompetant government like robots/slaves? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2:31 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Being american,, I think taxes are necessary but taxes > need > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > dependent > > > > > > > > > > > income.. the greater the income the greater the > taxes.. and > > > > removal of > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > tax exemptions especially on capital gains..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am beginning to think that a petition needs to be > > > > circulated placing > > > > > > > > > > > a mandatory 35% on income over $250,000.oo with no > > > > exemptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That would go a long way to helping the relive the > national > > > > debt.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also think all nation should have a 35% tax on money > > > > leaving a nation.. > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > > > > > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted > text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
