There is a fair amount of that going on here at the mo, you know blaming the parents, I guess there must be some truth in it.
On Aug 10, 1:26 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > First of all, forget the rubber bullets.//I think the rich do have a > responsibility- they have bred envy and fury. There was a peasant > revolt in the 14th C which was similar.//No- these groups want > immediate satisfaction>theft, arson rather than going without or > saving for stuff- the stuff their celebrities flaunt. They are > stealing electronic toys and luxury goods for the most part.//Yes- we > are immigrants but social behavior has radically changed in my > lifetime- though that's debatable.//The Sikhs gathered and guarded > their temple with baseball bats.//Anyway- I had my teens work part- > time jobs during highschool but if there are no jobs...//Finally, > where are the parents? Here, parents are responsible for their > children until age 18 so they should also make reparations. Plus, > doesn't England have street cameras for identification? > > On Aug 10, 1:23 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > what do you do with rich legislators who misbehave and run riot over the > > poor and helpless where do you send them?? Many migrants are just trying to > > earn a living and struggling at that because of the abutted of the rich who > > will not pay an honest wage?? > > > or the people who abuse them.. remember if you are not native > > american Indian you are an immigrant.. and my family was living in > > the Iowa area before the time of Johnny Appleseed.. and no one knows how or > > just when they arrived.. I am still part of a immigrant family.. > > Allan > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:29 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Allan- these are criminal flash mobs and it's happened here at the > > > Milwaukee Fair and in Chicago. I don't think you can compare the rich > > > and Congress to shop owners, dwellers who get caught in the riots and > > > arson or white people in cars leaving a fair. We dpend on law and > > > order and civil behavior. If foreigners won't behave, send them back > > > to where they came from- like the Mafia were returned to Sicily and > > > Italy! > > > > On Aug 9, 9:04 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Rigsy the looting and robbing the poor is the sport of congress and the > > > > upper 3% > > > > Allan > > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Or you could loot and rob which is the current sport. > > > > > > On Aug 8, 6:35 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm in the UK Allen. But as I say this suits me, I don';t want > > > > > > credit, I don't require deit either. I trust the cash I have in my > > > > > > hand and if I have not enough cash for a purchase, then I'll saveup > > > or > > > > > > go without. > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 8:55 pm, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Not sure what country you live and bank in even the U S has > > > ATM/debit > > > > > cards. Because people do not know how to use them.. That is another > > > story,, > > > > > what I would suggest is go and talk to your banker about just > > > everything > > > > > your ATM card > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > On 5 aug. 2011, at 14:58, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing and > > > one > > > > > > > > thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card at > > > all. > > > > > > > > > I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old > > > building > > > > > > > > sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no > > > current > > > > > > > > account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash and > > > cash > > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? > > > > > actually I > > > > > > > >> know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the grocery > > > or > > > > > any other > > > > > > > >> store for that matter that is how business is transacted > > > > > > > >> either > > > > > that or > > > > > > > >> cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. > > > > > > > >> your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though it > > > is > > > > > not a > > > > > > > >> credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. > > > > > > > >> ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch system > > > > > involving > > > > > > > >> dutch banks only very cool and safe.. > > > > > > > >> Allan > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for > > > > > > > >>> me. > > > I > > > > > do > > > > > > > >>> have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > > > > > > > >>> On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you > > > can > > > > > get your > > > > > > > >>>> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have > > > one..and > > > > > it > > > > > > > >>> limits > > > > > > > >>>> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the > > > > > electronic > > > > > > > >>>> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is > > > very > > > > > > > >>>> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do > > > not > > > > > like > > > > > > > >>>> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. > > > > > > > >>>> Allan > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>> Well Allan, > > > > > > > > >>>>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. > > > I do > > > > > it > > > > > > > >>>>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean > > > of > > > > > course > > > > > > > >>>>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then > > > > > > > >>>>> I > > > > > would > > > > > > > >>>>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > > > > > >>>>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for > > > > > something > > > > > > > >>>>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But > > > > > really > > > > > > > >>>>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have > > > a > > > > > > > >>>>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live > > > this > > > > > way, > > > > > > > >>>>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the > > > cash > > > > > then I > > > > > > > >>>>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a > > > > > chance on > > > > > > > >>>>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by > > > fucking > > > > > you up, > > > > > > > >>>>> I'll fuck myself up. > > > > > > > > >>>>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not > > > > > > > >>>>> the > > > > > cash to > > > > > > > >>>>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take > > > > > something > > > > > > > >>>>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll > > > > > > > >>>>> fucking > > > > > knock ya > > > > > > > >>>>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in > > > trouble. > > > > > No no > > > > > > > >>>>> no, no cash no purchase. > > > > > > > > >>>>> This is the way I must live my life. > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer > > > the > > > > > money > > > > > > > >>> to > > > > > > > >>>>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what > > > you > > > > > call > > > > > > > >>> it,, > > > > > > > >>>>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > > > > > >>>>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be > > > great.. > > > > > > > >>>>>> Allan > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have > > > no > > > > > cards. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping > > > > > > > >>>>>>> millions > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > >>>>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you > > > can't > > > > > take > > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then > > > they > > > > > still > > > > > > > >>>>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast > > > > > ammounts > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical > > > reasons > > > > > for > > > > > > > >>>>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope > > > not. > > > > > I > > > > > > > >>> think > > > > > > > >>>>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a > > > nice > > > > > pile > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must > > > > > declare > > > > > > > >>>>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the > > > day. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not > > > > > changed > > > > > > > >>>>> their > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> be > > > > > > > >>> difficult/ > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from > > > > > insecurity > > > > > > > >>> or > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist > > > > > > > >>> society. In > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You are talking about the- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more »
