First of all, forget the rubber bullets.//I think the rich do have a responsibility- they have bred envy and fury. There was a peasant revolt in the 14th C which was similar.//No- these groups want immediate satisfaction>theft, arson rather than going without or saving for stuff- the stuff their celebrities flaunt. They are stealing electronic toys and luxury goods for the most part.//Yes- we are immigrants but social behavior has radically changed in my lifetime- though that's debatable.//The Sikhs gathered and guarded their temple with baseball bats.//Anyway- I had my teens work part- time jobs during highschool but if there are no jobs...//Finally, where are the parents? Here, parents are responsible for their children until age 18 so they should also make reparations. Plus, doesn't England have street cameras for identification?
On Aug 10, 1:23 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > what do you do with rich legislators who misbehave and run riot over the > poor and helpless where do you send them?? Many migrants are just trying to > earn a living and struggling at that because of the abutted of the rich who > will not pay an honest wage?? > > or the people who abuse them.. remember if you are not native > american Indian you are an immigrant.. and my family was living in > the Iowa area before the time of Johnny Appleseed.. and no one knows how or > just when they arrived.. I am still part of a immigrant family.. > Allan > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:29 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Allan- these are criminal flash mobs and it's happened here at the > > Milwaukee Fair and in Chicago. I don't think you can compare the rich > > and Congress to shop owners, dwellers who get caught in the riots and > > arson or white people in cars leaving a fair. We dpend on law and > > order and civil behavior. If foreigners won't behave, send them back > > to where they came from- like the Mafia were returned to Sicily and > > Italy! > > > On Aug 9, 9:04 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Rigsy the looting and robbing the poor is the sport of congress and the > > > upper 3% > > > Allan > > > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Or you could loot and rob which is the current sport. > > > > > On Aug 8, 6:35 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm in the UK Allen. But as I say this suits me, I don';t want > > > > > credit, I don't require deit either. I trust the cash I have in my > > > > > hand and if I have not enough cash for a purchase, then I'll saveup > > or > > > > > go without. > > > > > > On Aug 5, 8:55 pm, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Not sure what country you live and bank in even the U S has > > ATM/debit > > > > cards. Because people do not know how to use them.. That is another > > story,, > > > > what I would suggest is go and talk to your banker about just > > everything > > > > your ATM card > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On 5 aug. 2011, at 14:58, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing and > > one > > > > > > > thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card at > > all. > > > > > > > > I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old > > building > > > > > > > sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no > > current > > > > > > > account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash and > > cash > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? > > > > actually I > > > > > > >> know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the grocery > > or > > > > any other > > > > > > >> store for that matter that is how business is transacted either > > > > that or > > > > > > >> cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. > > > > > > >> your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though it > > is > > > > not a > > > > > > >> credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. > > > > > > >> ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch system > > > > involving > > > > > > >> dutch banks only very cool and safe.. > > > > > > >> Allan > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for me. > > I > > > > do > > > > > > >>> have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > > > > > > >>> On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you > > can > > > > get your > > > > > > >>>> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have > > one..and > > > > it > > > > > > >>> limits > > > > > > >>>> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the > > > > electronic > > > > > > >>>> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is > > very > > > > > > >>>> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do > > not > > > > like > > > > > > >>>> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. > > > > > > >>>> Allan > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>> Well Allan, > > > > > > > >>>>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. > > I do > > > > it > > > > > > >>>>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean > > of > > > > course > > > > > > >>>>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I > > > > would > > > > > > >>>>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > > > > >>>>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for > > > > something > > > > > > >>>>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But > > > > really > > > > > > >>>>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have > > a > > > > > > >>>>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live > > this > > > > way, > > > > > > >>>>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the > > cash > > > > then I > > > > > > >>>>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a > > > > chance on > > > > > > >>>>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by > > fucking > > > > you up, > > > > > > >>>>> I'll fuck myself up. > > > > > > > >>>>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the > > > > cash to > > > > > > >>>>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take > > > > something > > > > > > >>>>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking > > > > knock ya > > > > > > >>>>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in > > trouble. > > > > No no > > > > > > >>>>> no, no cash no purchase. > > > > > > > >>>>> This is the way I must live my life. > > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer > > the > > > > money > > > > > > >>> to > > > > > > >>>>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what > > you > > > > call > > > > > > >>> it,, > > > > > > >>>>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > > > > >>>>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be > > great.. > > > > > > >>>>>> Allan > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have > > no > > > > cards. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions > > in > > > > the > > > > > > >>>>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you > > can't > > > > take > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > >>>>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then > > they > > > > still > > > > > > >>>>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast > > > > ammounts > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical > > reasons > > > > for > > > > > > >>>>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope > > not. > > > > I > > > > > > >>> think > > > > > > >>>>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a > > nice > > > > pile > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must > > > > declare > > > > > > >>>>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the > > day. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not > > > > changed > > > > > > >>>>> their > > > > > > >>>>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be > > > > > > >>> difficult/ > > > > > > >>>>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from > > > > insecurity > > > > > > >>> or > > > > > > >>>>>>>> hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist > > > > > > >>> society. In > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts > > thieves > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just > > > > > > >>> enough" > > > > > > >>>>> is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just fine. We could barter. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected] > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money > > does > > > > > > >>> one > > > > > > >>>>> perosn > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> need to libe as they wish. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their > > > > > > >>> money, > > > > > > >>>>> I > > > > > > >>>>>>> mean > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what are they going to do with it? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for > > > > > > >>> material > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How > > > > > > >>> though > > > > > > >>>>>>> ummmm? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative > > > > > > >>>>> republican > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a > > person > > > > > > >>> with > > > > > > >>>>> two > > > > > > >>>>>>> perfectly > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> all wealthy people have no right to live off the > > poor... > > > > > > >>>>> they > > > > > > >>>>>>> all > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
