Clearly it is time to remind group members of our posting guidelines. Please read and/or re-read them.
http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye/web/posting-guidelines In the first few years here the purely rational were about all that would be tolerated and evidence, proof etc. was the currency of the day. I’ve been a bit more flexible in this sense. Please do not interpret this relative freedom of posting to mean that I don’t care and/or won’t moderate. On Aug 5, 7:46 am, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > " I would say that true prayer is praise for God that and nowt else." > > hmm... This doesn't sit well with me. It implies that the creator is > vain. > > On Aug 5, 4:04 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Heh that has not been my experiances Jo. I would say that true prayer > > is praise for God that and nowt else. > > > Prayer to ask God for help I do not belive works at all. I gues your > > own experiances I would put down to good old fashioned coincidance. > > > On Aug 4, 7:11 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Prayer works! Especially if you get a large group to pray together for > > > the same outcome (within reason, the group has to believe that what > > > they're praying for is possible). And they don't even have to have the > > > same religious beliefs. They can be a mixture of Christians, Muslims, > > > Buddhists and New Agers. At least that's been my observation so far. > > > The larger the group the better the outcome. > > > > On Aug 4, 10:08 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Indeed Jo(and welcome from me BTW). > > > > > What would you say is the role of prayer? > > > > > On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe > > > > > that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow > > > > > connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks > > > > > and counting my blessings. > > > > > > On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that > > > > > > everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be > > > > > > worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe > > > > > > yourself > > > > > > to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would > > > > > > be > > > > > > lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not > > > > > > separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from > > > > > > you > > > > > > which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. > > > > > > Either > > > > > > believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be > > > > > > proper > > > > > > to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being > > > > > > and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at > > > > > > everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a > > > > > > state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to > > > > > > be so. > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of > > > > > > > calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would > > > > > > > like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel > > > > > > > protected > > > > > > > from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason > > > > > > > why we > > > > > > > have religions? > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say > > > > > > >> that on > > > > > > >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a > > > > > > >> state of > > > > > > >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion > > > > > > >> about the > > > > > > >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: > > > > > > >> > What I > > > > > > >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me > > > > > > >> > and the > > > > > > >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you > > > > > > >> > are part > > > > > > >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are > > > > > > >> > part of > > > > > > >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in > > > > > > >> > nature and > > > > > > >> > we live within God life force, am I right? > > > > > > >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful > > > > > > >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe > > > > > > >> > that you > > > > > > >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of > > > > > > >> > God and > > > > > > >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be > > > > > > >> > worthy > > > > > > >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are > > > > > > >> > trying > > > > > > >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to > > > > > > >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal. > > > > > > >> > I wish you all the best > > > > > > >> > Menfranco > > > > > > > >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit > > > > > > >> >> within me > > > > > > >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of > > > > > > >> >> God > > > > > > >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost > > > > > > >> >> being is the > > > > > > >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there > > > > > > >> >> is no > > > > > > >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is > > > > > > >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God > > > > > > >> >> who does > > > > > > >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a > > > > > > >> >> feeling > > > > > > >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour > > > > > > >> >> enemity for > > > > > > >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting > > > > > > >> >> others. > > > > > > >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state > > > > > > >> >> of > > > > > > >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful > > > > > > >> >> state. 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