Maybe we should pray for Lee and Archy that they don't get caught up in the riots and looting taking place in England. Call in the army and use rubber bullets or something. Very bad pre-publicity for the Olympics. Why are the Brits so cheerful and merry for royal weddings? Life is a jungle...
On Aug 9, 4:31 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Allan, > > And the worth of personal experiances to others is? > > I too have had many experiances, some downright frightening, some > quite lovely. > > Yes indeed God is in every thing, and so when humans do evil can it be > said that God is? > > On Aug 8, 7:27 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sorry Lee from one thing my personal experience is Gone is not Vain.. He is > > the kindest gentlest being I have ever meet. Common attributes? Good Gravy > > your entire being is made up of the essence of God.. and that very being > > gave you free will. > > > As for the religions and their books.. they are not all bad if you look at > > the value they have. please realize often times they are written by man > > to dominate others.. God is a victim of their desires.. > > Allan ("',) > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hahah Jo, God is vain! > > > > I'm not Christian but I do belive that when the Bible tells us that > > > God man man(kind) in Gods imaige there is truth to this. But > > > obviously If you and I look differant we can't both look like God? > > > > No I don't think that God litrally created Man(kind) in Gods imagine, > > > that is God is not human shapped for God (in my faith) is formless. > > > > So perhaps, just perhaps it is our minds, perhaps humanity shares some > > > attributes in common with God? > > > > The Chrisitian understanding of God we know is wrathfull, and > > > vengfull, and jeloues, so why not vain also? > > > > On Aug 5, 3:46 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > " I would say that true prayer is praise for God that and nowt else." > > > > > hmm... This doesn't sit well with me. It implies that the creator is > > > > vain. > > > > > On Aug 5, 4:04 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Heh that has not been my experiances Jo. I would say that true prayer > > > > > is praise for God that and nowt else. > > > > > > Prayer to ask God for help I do not belive works at all. I gues your > > > > > own experiances I would put down to good old fashioned coincidance. > > > > > > On Aug 4, 7:11 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Prayer works! Especially if you get a large group to pray together > > > for > > > > > > the same outcome (within reason, the group has to believe that what > > > > > > they're praying for is possible). And they don't even have to have > > > the > > > > > > same religious beliefs. They can be a mixture of Christians, > > > > > > Muslims, > > > > > > Buddhists and New Agers. At least that's been my observation so far. > > > > > > The larger the group the better the outcome. > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:08 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Indeed Jo(and welcome from me BTW). > > > > > > > > What would you say is the role of prayer? > > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do > > > believe > > > > > > > > that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are > > > somehow > > > > > > > > connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving > > > thanks > > > > > > > > and counting my blessings. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that > > > > > > > > > everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be > > > > > > > > > worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe > > > yourself > > > > > > > > > to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it > > > would be > > > > > > > > > lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and > > > is not > > > > > > > > > separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate > > > from you > > > > > > > > > which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. > > > Either > > > > > > > > > believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would > > > > > > > > > be > > > proper > > > > > > > > > to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your > > > Being > > > > > > > > > and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking > > > at > > > > > > > > > everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for > > > reaching a > > > > > > > > > state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my > > > resolve to > > > > > > > > > be so. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a > > > stage of > > > > > > > > > > calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written > > > > > > > > > > what > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I > > > would > > > > > > > > > > like to ask you a question to your statement where you say > > > that there > > > > > > > > > > is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to > > > > > > > > > > that > > > is that > > > > > > > > > > I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel > > > protected > > > > > > > > > > from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the > > > reason why we > > > > > > > > > > have religions? > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only > > > say that on > > > > > > > > > >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a > > > state of > > > > > > > > > >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical > > > > > > > > > >> conclusion > > > about the > > > > > > > > > >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. > > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you > > > say: What I > > > > > > > > > >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within > > > me and the > > > > > > > > > >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that > > > you are part > > > > > > > > > >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that > > > > > > > > > >> > they > > > are part of > > > > > > > > > >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in > > > nature and > > > > > > > > > >> > we live within God life force, am I right? > > > > > > > > > >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this > > > peaceful > > > > > > > > > >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I > > > believe that you > > > > > > > > > >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part > > > of God and > > > > > > > > > >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may > > > > > > > > > >> > not > > > be worthy > > > > > > > > > >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives > > > > > > > > > >> > we > > > are trying > > > > > > > > > >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we > > > > > > > > > >> > hope > > > to > > > > > > > > > >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal. > > > > > > > > > >> > I wish you all the best > > > > > > > > > >> > Menfranco > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the > > > > > > > > > >> >> spirit > > > within me > > > > > > > > > >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think > > > of God > > > > > > > > > >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our > > > > > > > > > >> >> innermost > > > being is the > > > > > > > > > >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally > > > there is no > > > > > > > > > >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. > > > It is > > > > > > > > > >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is > > > God who does > > > > > > > > > >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should > > > have a feeling > > > > > > > > > >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not > > > > > > > > > >> >> harbour > > > enemity for > > > > > > > > > >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy > > > hurting others. > > > > > > > > > >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a > > > state of > > > > > > > > > >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that > > > peaceful state. 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