Hahah Jo, God is vain! I'm not Christian but I do belive that when the Bible tells us that God man man(kind) in Gods imaige there is truth to this. But obviously If you and I look differant we can't both look like God?
No I don't think that God litrally created Man(kind) in Gods imagine, that is God is not human shapped for God (in my faith) is formless. So perhaps, just perhaps it is our minds, perhaps humanity shares some attributes in common with God? The Chrisitian understanding of God we know is wrathfull, and vengfull, and jeloues, so why not vain also? On Aug 5, 3:46 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > " I would say that true prayer is praise for God that and nowt else." > > hmm... This doesn't sit well with me. It implies that the creator is > vain. > > On Aug 5, 4:04 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heh that has not been my experiances Jo. I would say that true prayer > > is praise for God that and nowt else. > > > Prayer to ask God for help I do not belive works at all. I gues your > > own experiances I would put down to good old fashioned coincidance. > > > On Aug 4, 7:11 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Prayer works! Especially if you get a large group to pray together for > > > the same outcome (within reason, the group has to believe that what > > > they're praying for is possible). And they don't even have to have the > > > same religious beliefs. They can be a mixture of Christians, Muslims, > > > Buddhists and New Agers. At least that's been my observation so far. > > > The larger the group the better the outcome. > > > > On Aug 4, 10:08 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Indeed Jo(and welcome from me BTW). > > > > > What would you say is the role of prayer? > > > > > On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do believe > > > > > that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are somehow > > > > > connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving thanks > > > > > and counting my blessings. > > > > > > On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows that > > > > > > everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would be > > > > > > worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you believe > > > > > > yourself > > > > > > to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him it would > > > > > > be > > > > > > lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being and is not > > > > > > separate from us , but you can only worship someone separate from > > > > > > you > > > > > > which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our essence. > > > > > > Either > > > > > > believe God to be separate from you , in which case it would be > > > > > > proper > > > > > > to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be your Being > > > > > > and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and looking at > > > > > > everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for reaching a > > > > > > state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my resolve to > > > > > > be so. > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a stage of > > > > > > > calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written what you > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > written about we all being part of God in this thread. But I would > > > > > > > like to ask you a question to your statement where you say that > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to that is > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may feel > > > > > > > protected > > > > > > > from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the reason > > > > > > > why we > > > > > > > have religions? > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I only say > > > > > > >> that on > > > > > > >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to reach a > > > > > > >> state of > > > > > > >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical conclusion > > > > > > >> about the > > > > > > >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when you say: > > > > > > >> > What I > > > > > > >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit within me > > > > > > >> > and the > > > > > > >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume that you > > > > > > >> > are part > > > > > > >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that they are > > > > > > >> > part of > > > > > > >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic in > > > > > > >> > nature and > > > > > > >> > we live within God life force, am I right? > > > > > > >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this peaceful > > > > > > >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I believe > > > > > > >> > that you > > > > > > >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being part of > > > > > > >> > God and > > > > > > >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may not be > > > > > > >> > worthy > > > > > > >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our lives we are > > > > > > >> > trying > > > > > > >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we hope to > > > > > > >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal. > > > > > > >> > I wish you all the best > > > > > > >> > Menfranco > > > > > > > >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the spirit > > > > > > >> >> within me > > > > > > >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I think of > > > > > > >> >> God > > > > > > >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our innermost > > > > > > >> >> being is the > > > > > > >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally there > > > > > > >> >> is no > > > > > > >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are Him. It is > > > > > > >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it is God > > > > > > >> >> who does > > > > > > >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should have a > > > > > > >> >> feeling > > > > > > >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not harbour > > > > > > >> >> enemity for > > > > > > >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy hurting > > > > > > >> >> others. > > > > > > >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains a state > > > > > > >> >> of > > > > > > >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that peaceful > > > > > > >> >> state. 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