Sorry Rigsy,, interesting you and many others talk about personality,, it seems that never relates to actions or accomplishments..
Indecently a few years back Bill Clinton was on Oprah promoting Kiva ,, Kiva is all about micro loans helping people.. I stuck around $200 into it.. lost some money on one loan.. but that is okay. there is $21.99 in my Kiva credit before long it will reach $25.oo I will make another loan along with a group of other investors I have $158.34 in out standing loans.. This very minor amount of money I have made 43 loans of $25 each all around the world.. including the US this is not a donation it is a loan. have never had more fun playing banker with my $200. than I have had playing with anything I have bought. http://www.kiva.org/ if you are interested I will send you an invite but you do not need one to help that is if you are interested. I have made those 43 (ongoing) as the results of the efforts of Bill Clinton (he makes loans too) that is looking at the effect a person has not his personality.. When you talk about government you have to look at what they do not their personalities. What has the weasel Bush done.. wrote his memoirs. when he leaves his hide out (a political bribe ) he has to have a high severity team to prevent him from being killed. he came over here to Europe and was run out of town.. I believe ex Senator Dole the Senate Republican major and Bush Buddy was indicted of FELONY charges in Texas the sate he represented.. Being a Senator or Representative in the USA should be about what they can do to protect the all of the people not how much money they can get in bribery.. by what ever means needed. My apologies for ragging on. Allan On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:34 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > I have to correct your impression, Allan. I was pretty oblivious to > politics until 2000 though I voted- often for independents like > Anderson, what's his name with the charts and big ears, and the > Lebanese guy with lemons and love for his mother- not very astute, I'd > say.Didn't like beta Gore, thought Kerry was a fortune-hunter, never > believed either Clinton- or Johnson. Well, I could go on but as you > can see I am erratic- yes- I voted for Goldwater!!! But I also voted > for McGovern, later!!! As for Reagan, I was also indifferent but a > friend put up any nasty cartoon about him she could find on her fridge > to the point of obsession. I did notice great political intensity with > friends who were younger by 9 or 10 years but much less with those my > own age. But why, is a different topic. > > Anyway, there is enough to blame on both sides of the aisle and > frankly I think politics are nasty and don't think I would have been a > suffragette and wasn't a bra-burning militant feminist though I read a > few books- Friedan, Millet, Greer- and was unimpressed-they just > sounded frustrated and foolish. Maybe I was ruined by literature! I > was watching "A House Divided" about the Lincolns and honestly thought > they had severe psychological problems. > > Oh well- try to be merciful... > > On Aug 8, 2:08 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > You are a smart woman Rigsy and have watched the political situation > through > > many presidents ... You do remember Reagan don't you? remember the > > great Reaganomics the great economic plan put forth by the Republican > Party > > and their stooge Reagan? What you are seeing is the effect of this > economic > > and government policies put forth by the republican party and their > > leadership blindly cling to denying all responsibility for the problems. > > > > I do not see the complaining about the expiring of the Bush Tax cuts as > he > > immediately increased the national debt by five trillion under > > the guidance total approval of a republican controlled house and senate. > It > > is a Republican controlled house and senate that jumped on the Bush/Iraq > war > > band wagon. Their actions bringing on the need to go several more > trillion > > in debt to trying to dig the country out of the economic. > > > > ALL POLITICIANS NEED TO ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACTIONS THEY > HAVE > > CAUSED!!!!!! that includes both parties.. All politicians need to get > off > > the corporate bribary dole the fancy meal private air craft gold games > ao > > they can get exclusive access to bribe them this reelection funds if the > do > > what they want.. > > > > Until the people of world take control of all of their governments and > stop > > listing propaganda but out to deceive them.. doubt of that happening the > > Republicans have successfully created a nation unable understand what > is > > going on.. > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:13 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I think Obama will be re-elected or we will face riots. > > > > > Well, that may be the case. I obviously think he's wrong on his > economic > > > views and the current situation after 2 and a half years of his > policies > > > would seem to bear that out to a reasonably minded person. However, > he's not > > > all bad. He's doing a bang-up job killing terrorists. Getting us > embroiled > > > in two extra wars by executive privilege probably wasn't a good idea > but > > > he's still a foreign policy rookie so I'm willing to cut him some > slack. > > > Besides, as Orn says, it's good for the economy to keep our warriors > busy. > > > He's made a few other good decisions such as abandoning the silly > notion of > > > trying terrorists on US soil and closing Gitmo and letting the Bush tax > cuts > > > expire. It's entirely likely he will eventually come around on other > > > important issues as well as we get closer to November 2012. Our credit > > > rating agencies have hopefully forced him to recognize the error of his > ways > > > and he will reform before elections take it out of his hands. One can > only > > > hope for the best but prepare for the worst. > > > > > As much as the media is in his pocket it's disturbing to me how he's > > > squandered his chances of making some real headway in repairing the > economy. > > > It's staggering really. To paraphrase Pink Floyd: > > > > > what have we done obama what have we done > > > what have we done to America > > > should we shout should we scream > > > "what happened to the post war dream?" > > > oh obama obama what have we done? > > > > > dj > > > > >> On Aug 6, 4:48 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Hm. I disagree with describing the times as febrile. Stagnate is > more > > >> like > > >> > it. Perhaps the day traders are febrile but I have no respect or > > >> sympathy > > >> > for them. The 500 pt. drop on the DOW represents a run to cash. > > >> Motivated > > >> > less by fear, I think, then exasperation with a President and a > Congress > > >> > that fail to see the gravity of the situation and have the guts to > do > > >> > something about it. A government unwilling to even take > half-measures to > > >> > begin a recovery. In short, a response to cowardice and ineptitude. > The > > >> > deficit most trying us now isn't that of GDP to revenue it's lack of > > >> > competent leadership. Instead we have a 'leader' completely blaming > one > > >> > branch of the government for all the problems as if 6 straight years > of > > >> > Democratic control of Congress had nothing to do with our current > > >> problems. > > >> > It shouldn't be that hard to admit there's plenty of blame to share > > >> between > > >> > all the branches including the Federal Reserve. Less partisanship > and > > >> more > > >> > focus please. > > > > >> > Unfortunately for us too much attention has been on deliberately > > >> increasing > > >> > the role of government in people's lives. It's expensive and it's > > >> > inefficient. I understand TARP. I understand spending your way out > of a > > >> > recession. Perhaps it would be a good time to step up road repair > and > > >> bridge > > >> > building and whatever infrastructure we might need in the next few > years > > >> and > > >> > just borrow and get it done NOW. More importantly though we need a > clear > > >> and > > >> > honest effort to reign in the reckless spending on entitlements. Our > > >> future > > >> > depends on it. Too much has been promised and the hard decisions on > how > > >> to > > >> > break those promises have to be made but clearly they won't be by > Barack > > >> > Obama or this Congress. Hard times are coming; ya'll ain't seen > nothing > > >> yet. > > > > >> > Vote change in 2012. > > > > >> > dj > > > > >> > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:10 PM, paradox <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > I hear you, rigsy. > > > > >> > > Considering markets are often way ahead of the economic cycle, > caution > > >> > > might have best described the market lethargy prior to the fear > driven > > >> > > "correction" of the past week, all considered. The global economy > has > > >> > > gradually but steadily been absorbing higher commodities pricing, > re- > > >> > > configuring economic value space, and re-balancing global growth. > It's > > >> > > curious and unusual to see the markets well behind the curve, and > > >> > > thats the work of naked fear, and opportunistic speculation (no > > >> > > criticism, just observation). > > > > >> > > The S&P action, unfortunate in its timing, is more a political > rebuke > > >> > > than a meaningful statement of financial "risk"; and yes, it's > > >> > > significance is disproportionate; these are febrile times. > > > > >> > > On Aug 6, 2:10 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > I would correct the term fear to caution which is a natural > > >> component > > >> > > > of foresight. Some might call it a sizing up. For some reason, I > am > > >> > > > thinking of Ulysses- Homer's, not Grant. Perhaps the purpose of > the > > >> > > > Boy Scout motto, "Be Prepared"? Of course we cannot control all > the > > >> > > > factors that affect us in life but that brings to mind the over- > > >> > > > controlled life versus one that adapts and is flexible- the > extremes > > >> > > > of being set in one's ways and the dewy naif who trusts all- > > >> > > > everything and everybody. > > > > >> > > > I find it troubling that the lead headline is S&P's rating > versus > > >> the > > >> > > > loss of our Special Forces. > > > > >> > > > I have long thought that many survival/social instincts begin in > the > > >> > > > nursery among siblings as they vie for attention, position > within > > >> the > > >> > > > family- like children seem to hop on their own branch on the > family > > >> > > > tree in order to be unique or special. Those "skills" carry > forward > > >> > > > into school cliques and later work and social roles. > > > > >> > > > Some have commented that S&P has no business rating anything > since > > >> it > > >> > > > is a private company or that the USA can carry any debt it > pleases > > >> > > > since it is the SuperPower above and beyond ordinary rules and > > >> > > > policies. > > > > >> > > > On Aug 5, 6:43 pm, paradox <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > I recall an earlier post in which rigsy suggested an enduring > > >> adaptive > > >> > > > > value to the emotion of Fear; i was thinking about this today > in > > >> the > > >> > > > > context of the global market gymnastics this week, akin to a > > >> neurotic > > >> > > > > on steroids; nothing fundamental or new in global economic > terms > > >> has > > >> > > > > changed this week, no new notable insights of structurally > > >> significant > > >> > > > > proportions; in short, nothing new. Yet, we're 10%+ and 3 > trillion > > >> > > > > dollars worse of on Friday than we were this time last week. > Was > > >> this > > >> > > > > not essentially what we developed Foresight to counterbalance, > i > > >> > > > > wonder?- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
