Well then Allen, in my book that makes you a wise man. Heheh all i know for sure is there is a hell of a lot I don't know!
On Aug 9, 1:19 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I think it is part of freedom of choice God gave to people. Just because > people abuse this freedom, > What I think it really comes down to and how we respond to a situation, > doing nothing is also a valid choice which we are held accountable for.. > > Reality is Lee II do not have and answer or explanation,, I just do not > know, > Allan > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Allan, > > > And the worth of personal experiances to others is? > > > I too have had many experiances, some downright frightening, some > > quite lovely. > > > Yes indeed God is in every thing, and so when humans do evil can it be > > said that God is? > > > On Aug 8, 7:27 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry Lee from one thing my personal experience is Gone is not Vain.. He > > is > > > the kindest gentlest being I have ever meet. Common attributes? Good > > Gravy > > > your entire being is made up of the essence of God.. and that very > > being > > > gave you free will. > > > > As for the religions and their books.. they are not all bad if you look > > at > > > the value they have. please realize often times they are written by man > > > to dominate others.. God is a victim of their desires.. > > > Allan ("',) > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Hahah Jo, God is vain! > > > > > I'm not Christian but I do belive that when the Bible tells us that > > > > God man man(kind) in Gods imaige there is truth to this. But > > > > obviously If you and I look differant we can't both look like God? > > > > > No I don't think that God litrally created Man(kind) in Gods imagine, > > > > that is God is not human shapped for God (in my faith) is formless. > > > > > So perhaps, just perhaps it is our minds, perhaps humanity shares some > > > > attributes in common with God? > > > > > The Chrisitian understanding of God we know is wrathfull, and > > > > vengfull, and jeloues, so why not vain also? > > > > > On Aug 5, 3:46 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > " I would say that true prayer is praise for God that and nowt else." > > > > > > hmm... This doesn't sit well with me. It implies that the creator is > > > > > vain. > > > > > > On Aug 5, 4:04 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Heh that has not been my experiances Jo. I would say that true > > prayer > > > > > > is praise for God that and nowt else. > > > > > > > Prayer to ask God for help I do not belive works at all. I gues > > your > > > > > > own experiances I would put down to good old fashioned coincidance. > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 7:11 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Prayer works! Especially if you get a large group to pray > > together > > > > for > > > > > > > the same outcome (within reason, the group has to believe that > > what > > > > > > > they're praying for is possible). And they don't even have to > > have > > > > the > > > > > > > same religious beliefs. They can be a mixture of Christians, > > Muslims, > > > > > > > Buddhists and New Agers. At least that's been my observation so > > far. > > > > > > > The larger the group the better the outcome. > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:08 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Indeed Jo(and welcome from me BTW). > > > > > > > > > What would you say is the role of prayer? > > > > > > > > > On Jul 28, 5:53 pm, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We never went church while I was growing up. However, I do > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > that a higher power does exist. I also believe that we are > > > > somehow > > > > > > > > > connected to it. Worship for me has always been about giving > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > and counting my blessings. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 8:25 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If we are completely bound by the will of God it follows > > that > > > > > > > > > > everything is done by God , and hence it is God who would > > be > > > > > > > > > > worshiping God which to me appears ridiculous. If you > > believe > > > > yourself > > > > > > > > > > to be an emanation of God and completely controlled by Him > > it > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > lack of wisdom to worship Him. God is our innermost being > > and > > > > is not > > > > > > > > > > separate from us , but you can only worship someone > > separate > > > > from you > > > > > > > > > > which is inconsistent with our belief that God is our > > essence. > > > > Either > > > > > > > > > > believe God to be separate from you , in which case it > > would be > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > > to worship Him like loving someone , or believe Him to be > > your > > > > Being > > > > > > > > > > and hence act with an attitude of equality to all and > > looking > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > everyone animate or inanimate with an equal eye. As for > > > > reaching a > > > > > > > > > > state of calmness and peace I am far from it but it is my > > > > resolve to > > > > > > > > > > be so. > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Menfranco Laws < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I see what you mean and I believe that you have reached a > > > > stage of > > > > > > > > > > > calmness and peace, otherwise you would not have written > > what > > > > you have > > > > > > > > > > > written about we all being part of God in this thread. > > But I > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > like to ask you a question to your statement where you > > say > > > > that there > > > > > > > > > > > is no wisdom in worshipping our creator; my objection to > > that > > > > is that > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that man needs to pray God, so that they may > > feel > > > > protected > > > > > > > > > > > from God; I believe that it is one of the needs and the > > > > reason why we > > > > > > > > > > > have religions? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> I do not say that I have reached a peaceful state , I > > only > > > > say that on > > > > > > > > > > >> gaining knowledge of the Truth one should strive to > > reach a > > > > state of > > > > > > > > > > >> calmness and peace. By Knowledge I mean a logical > > conclusion > > > > about the > > > > > > > > > > >> nature of Reality and not any transcendental experience. > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Menfranco Laws < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi, RP Singh; These are indeed words of wisdom when > > you > > > > say: What I > > > > > > > > > > >> > feel, think and do is totally bound by the spirit > > within > > > > me and the > > > > > > > > > > >> > same is true for everyone else; but then, you assume > > that > > > > you are part > > > > > > > > > > >> > of God and therefore everybody should be or feel that > > they > > > > are part of > > > > > > > > > > >> > God, so in reality you are saying that God is pandemic > > in > > > > nature and > > > > > > > > > > >> > we live within God life force, am I right? > > > > > > > > > > >> > But, I have to say that not everybody has reached this > > > > peaceful > > > > > > > > > > >> > feeling within them selves that you have achieved, I > > > > believe that you > > > > > > > > > > >> > are one of the few that has this feeling about being > > part > > > > of God and > > > > > > > > > > >> > you are blessed, the rest of us just think that we may > > not > > > > be worthy > > > > > > > > > > >> > enough of being part of God, therefore during our > > lives we > > > > are trying > > > > > > > > > > >> > to achieve what you have achieved for yourself and we > > hope > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > >> > understand you fully when we reach our goal. > > > > > > > > > > >> > I wish you all the best > > > > > > > > > > >> > Menfranco > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Jul 24, 6:25 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> >> What I feel , think and do is totally bound by the > > spirit > > > > within me > > > > > > > > > > >> >> and the same is true for everyone else. So , if I > > think > > > > of God > > > > > > > > > > >> >> separate from me I am thinking wrongly ; as our > > innermost > > > > being is the > > > > > > > > > > >> >> same in all and all of us follow his dictates totally > > > > there is no > > > > > > > > > > >> >> wisdom in worshiping our creator as albeit we are > > Him. > > > > It is > > > > > > > > > > >> >> ignorance to worship yourself. God is in all and it > > is > > > > God who does > > > > > > > > > > >> >> everything as all our bound totally by Him. We should > > > > have a feeling > > > > > > > > > > >> >> of love for all as essentially we are one and not > > harbour > > > > enemity for > > > > > > > > > > >> >> those of us who are ignorant of the Truth and enjoy > > > > hurting others. > > > > > > > > > > >> >> When a person knows that all are One then he attains > > a > > > > state of > > > > > > > > > > >> >> calmness and if not he should try to achieve that > > > > peaceful state. But > > > > > > > > > > >> >> of course we cannot cut the ties that bind us through > > > > this body and > > > > > > > > > > >> >> have a practical outlook.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
