When Rome burned, the Dark Ages began.
On Aug 20, 7:51 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > Creating order from chaos requires entering into the chaos. We are > often too content to rest in outdated but comfortable social orders. > The balance of individual and consensus reality becomes infinite in > mutual creativity. Finding and maintaining that point in experience > is a real challenge. Once found, old orders fall away, new orders are > created, the circles of familiarity become smaller and at the same > time eternal as folks capable of sharing the unseen unite in action. > Rome burns, and a new order emerges. Yet all we can see or feel is > Rome burning. Why? > > On Aug 20, 2:57 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-loo... > > > We had riots in England a couple of weeks ago. Our media was full of > > people, including reporters, stating this was a new issue and > > unprecedented. I did not believe this as I watched - though I did see > > a great deal I recognised from GTA games. The above link to the > > Economist makes use of a book by Pearson I read years ago - it casts a > > very different view that our riots were really only history repeating > > itself. > > > I don't believe human thought can 'rid itself' of emotional response > > (or should). I do believe we can do better than 'knee-jerk reactions' > > - but I also believe this is quite difficult and beyond many people > > left to their own devices. I believe our democracies are weak at the > > moment and that this is because we can't argue very well - hence > > politicians appeal to much that is populist and wrong using highly > > dubious techniques. > > > I'm sure I could identify the protocols that appeal to 'ignorant > > Idols' that lead to situations of 'nopolitics' in our societies and > > thus the rule of the very rich through "economics" in a way far more > > centralised than any politburo. > > > I've pretty much given up on democracy. Teaching is very frustrating > > because you want to encourage self-learning and resourceful human > > beings and also know this is too much for most - democracy is > > similar. The struggle is knowing this and not wanting to be elitist > > and sneer at others. I succeed a bit in 'adventures with ideas' but > > the same mistakes in reaction crop up time and time and time again in > > wider social action. > > > I wonder if outing the protocols of the dreary positions people take > > in reaction could help us actually find dialogue?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
